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Describing Blacks, Black Americans, and African-Americans [Vanity]
FreeRepublic ^ | June 30, 2023 | Reno89519

Posted on 06/30/2023 9:08:43 AM PDT by Reno89519

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Amish. Of course.

Don't forget teens.

21 posted on 06/30/2023 9:23:49 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Reno89519
Speaking for myself, I'd like to think that FR is not a racist site, that its members and writers are not racist, nor that we use racist terms to enflame discussion or for other ill intent

You used the word "racist" three times in a single sentence.

Can you define it?

22 posted on 06/30/2023 9:24:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: Tell It Right

Many years ago I worked with a young Black woman who had a white German Shepherd. It was named ‘Whitey’.

She said White passersby would look at her funny when she went outside to call Whitey in...


23 posted on 06/30/2023 9:25:01 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Reno89519

Teens in many reports dealing with crime.


24 posted on 06/30/2023 9:25:57 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Reno89519

Actually whether we call them Negro, Colored, Black, black or African-American, I can guarantee some portion them will be offended. Maybe we need to call them by the most popular word, they call themselves.


25 posted on 06/30/2023 9:27:11 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: Reno89519

“People of a protected class”

/sarc


26 posted on 06/30/2023 9:30:41 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Reno89519
Anyway, based on my brief research this morning, please let me update on why I think everyone should stop using "Negroes", "Negroid", "Negress", etc.

When discussing music history in my college class:

If a music title has the term in it, like Coleridge-Taylor's 24 Negro Melodies for Piano, Op. 59, I don't remove the term, *** it, or try to change it.

When I am discussing "Negro spirituals" from the 19th or early 20th century, I don't change the term.

When I discuss Ellington's Black, Brown, and Beige, I reference the premiere performance at Carnegie Hall in 1943 where Ellington says, "This is the one we dedicate to the 700 Negroes who came from Haiti to save Savannah during the Revolutionary War," and I don't change it.

OTOH, there is nothing gained by referring to Lizzo or Rihanna or Beyonce as a "Nigress"; I don't even think that was used to describe Aretha Franklin or Diana Ross in the 60s, even though the concept of Negritude was a common topic among Black writers of the time.

In short, it's a term that is relevant to its historical use, that is no longer used in common parlance, so there is nothing gained by attempting to bring it back, but something lost by attempting to act like it never existed.

27 posted on 06/30/2023 9:31:10 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Jim Noble
What is racist? Good question!

Easy to default to a dictionary definition, such as "characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." but that doesn't really get to the heart of it.

I prefer a more concrete example: If Black Student Union or Black Chamber of Commerce are okay but White Student Union and White Chamber of Commerce are not, that is racist just the same as when there were different water fountains for each race.

28 posted on 06/30/2023 9:31:42 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Reno89519

Dated? I am freaking dated. I do not adopt the opinions of others because of current fashion.

Anthropology defines the races, not the NYT or other liberal rags.


29 posted on 06/30/2023 9:32:04 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Reno89519

The only people “concerned” with being concerned, are those that care only about virtue signaling.


30 posted on 06/30/2023 9:32:14 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: Signalman

I watched an interview recently with an older black woman, and she had always referred to herself and those around her as “black”.

She said she never understood why it changed at some point to “African American”, which she rejected.


31 posted on 06/30/2023 9:32:36 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Leaning Right

When I was young, Negro and negroid were the polite and correct terms for the common more vulgar terms frequently used. That stuck with me and see no reason to be fashionable.


32 posted on 06/30/2023 9:37:53 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Reno89519

American


33 posted on 06/30/2023 9:38:21 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Reno89519

Call them what you want. But stop using a Capital B when writing about blacks.


34 posted on 06/30/2023 9:39:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Jamestown1630

A good black friend of mine in the 70s was called Whitey for years. He didn’t mind and called himself.

He and his grandparents were very fine people. He went from being a skinny little kid to a bulked up Chicago cop


35 posted on 06/30/2023 9:39:14 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Reno89519

In the restaurant business, they’re known as Southern Canadians, mainly because so few tip appropriately or at all. I prefer black with no capitalization because white is not afforded the same courtesy according to the AP style guide.


36 posted on 06/30/2023 9:39:19 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Right Brother

Bingo


37 posted on 06/30/2023 9:39:34 AM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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To: Leaning Right

Have you looked at the etymology of those words? You make it offensive because of your feelings. Words have actual historical meanings.


38 posted on 06/30/2023 9:40:25 AM PDT by GMThrust
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To: Reno89519

Obama his ownself said the N word in a nationally broadcast interview while he was president. I don’t use that word by choice but Obama’s ownself can say it anyone can. This is America right?


39 posted on 06/30/2023 9:40:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: Reno89519

Liberals use words to control people.

They constantly screw around with the language and demand that we adopt their new terminology. If we don’t, it’s heresy.

Negro is just Spanish for black. It all means the same f’n thing. They’re just pulling a power play on you.

Call them whatever you want. It’s called free speech for a reason.


40 posted on 06/30/2023 9:43:00 AM PDT by DarrellZero
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