The following are the LYING images that MORMONism has produced, KNOWING that they represent something FALSE!!
Posted on 08/10/2023 6:58:58 PM PDT by tired&retired
These are some pretty awesome prayers! Amen and amen.
Thank’s should go to John for writing this conversation down to begin with.
So; just how does this work?
The disciples wanted to learn HOW to pray; not WHAT to pray...
And some grumpy old farts; too!
Not to worry; I have.
"Now the way he translated was he put the urim and thummim into his hat and Darkned his Eyes than he would take a sentance and it would apper in Brite Roman Letters. Then he would tell the writer and he would write it. Then that would go away the next sentance would Come and so on. But if it was not Spelt rite it would not go away till it was rite, so we see it was marvelous. Thus was the hol [whole] translated."---Joseph Knight's journal.
"In writing for your father I frequently wrote day after day, often sitting at the table close by him, he sitting with his face buried in his hat, with the stone in it, and dictating hour after hour with nothing between us."
(History of the RLDS Church, 8 vols.(Independence, Missouri: Herald House,1951),"Last Testimony of Sister Emma [Smith Bidamon]," 3:356.
"I, as well as all of my father's family, Smith's wife, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, were present during the translation. . . . He [Joseph Smith] did not use the plates in translation."
---(David Whitmer,as published in the "Kansas City Journal," June 5, 1881,and reprinted in the RLDS "Journal of History", vol. 8, (1910), pp. 299-300.
In an 1885 interview, Zenas H. Gurley, then the editor of the RLDS Saints Herald, asked Whitmer if Joseph had used his "Peep stone" to do the translation. Whitmer replied:
"... he used a stone called a "Seers stone," the "Interpreters" having been taken away from him because of transgression. The "Interpreters" were taken from Joseph after he allowed Martin Harris to carry away the 116 pages of Ms [manuscript] of the Book of Mormon as a punishment, but he was allowed to go on and translate by use of a "Seers stone" which he had, and which he placed in a hat into which he buried his face, stating to me and others that the original character appeared upon parchment and under it the translation in English."
"Martin Harris related an incident that occurred during the time that he wrote that portion of the translation of the Book of Mormon which he was favored to write direct from the mouth of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He said that the Prophet possessed a seer stone, by which he was enabled to translate as well as from the Urim and Thummim, and for convenience he then used the seer stone, Martin explained the translation as follows: By aid of the seer stone, sentences would appear and were read by the Prophet and written by Martin and when finished he would say 'Written,' and if correctly written that sentence would disappear and another appear in its place, but if not written correctly it remained until corrected, so that the translation was just as it was engraven on the plates, precisely in the language then used."
(Edward Stevenson, "One of the Three Witnesses,"reprinted from Deseret News, 30 Nov. 1881in Millennial Star, 44 (6 Feb. 1882): 86-87.)
In 1879, Michael Morse, Emma Smith's brother-in-law, stated:"When Joseph was translating the Book of Mormon [I] had occasion more than once to go into his immediate presence, and saw him engaged at his work of translation. The mode of procedure consisted in Joseph's placing the Seer Stone in the crown of a hat, then putting his face into the hat, so as to entirely cover his face, resting his elbows upon his knees, and then dictating word after word, while the scribes Emma, John Whitmer, O. Cowdery, or some other wrote it down."
(W.W. Blair interview with Michael Morse,Saints Herald, vol. 26, no. 12June 15, 1879, pp. 190-91.)
Joseph Smith's brother William also testified to the "face in the hat" version:"The manner in which this was done was by looking into the Urim and Thummim, which was placed in a hat to exclude the light, (the plates lying near by covered up), and reading off the translation, which appeared in the stone by the power of God"("A New Witness for Christ in America,"Francis W. Kirkham, 2:417.)
"The manner in which he pretended to read and interpret was the same manner as when he looked for the money-diggers, with the stone in his hat, while the book of plates were at the same time hid in the woods."---Isaac Hale (Emma Smith's father's) affidavit, 1834.
Have some milk:
https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/joseph-smith-translates-the-gold-plates?lang=eng
Time to check your meds. Cuckoo
” And the one whom you now have is not your husband: “ John 4
“When I’m reading a soul ...
So; just how does this work?”
Memories of life experiences are stored in the soul external to the physical body in a specific pattern and sequence. These memories have density based upon the intensity of negative emotion attached to the stored memory.
The life review process a soul experiences after death is caused by the person’s conscious awareness expanding through these stored memories as it lets go of the physical body. They are physical to my perception.
This is how Jesus knew the life history of the people around Him, like the woman at the well in John 4.
When I touch a traumatic stored memory many feet from a person’s physical body it stimulates it, causing it to back feed into the peripheral nervous system and into the central nervous system where it flows through the amygdala and causes physical body movement.
The soul field goes out about 15 ft in all directions to the conception memories. (Memories are stored in reverse sequence with more currentmemories being closer to the physical body.)
The field goes much further out but I’ll forgo explaining that at this time.
These traumatic memories are obstacles to Love in the soul.
So it’s easy for me to tell if the person was an unwanted pregnancy, or if the mothrr had a trauma during the pregnancy.
Life begins at conception. There is no question. It’s easy to demonstrate and prove as the stored memories are in the soul from the mother’s perspective.
There is a process of removing and healing these memories that shackle the soul, thus allowing it to heal.
When a person follows Jesus’s teachings it releases the conscious awareness from the restrictions of the physical senses and you begin to perceive directly with your consciousness beyond your body. That’s how I do this.
This is a partial summary of the process.
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“” And the one whom you now have is not your husband: “ John 4”
I hear you. We must be careful assuming facts through our own projections that go beyond the facts provided in the text.
Would it be easy to assume that you are correct? Absolutely.
I try to be very careful with assumptions.
I have no need to convince you.
I’ve done demonstrations for some of the best university based consciousness researchers in the world. They thought like you until I demonstrated it and they experienced it.
Some of them just started shaking and losing it as it undermined their belief system which they had formed their ego identity around.
I have no desire to traumatize people.
This is the strangest thread I’ve ever seen on FR.
Accommodating and encouraging someone’s delusional thinking is not a kindness.
I try my best to not attack other people’s religions, as that shuts down their mind. I would rather have an intellectual discussion than an emotional demonization.
That’s what they said to many scientists.
Your response is exactly as outlined in the classic text that is required reading in most graduate research programs, “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions” by Thomas Kuhn.
I not only demonstrate what I am stating, but can explain it in detail with evidence based medicine and neuroscience. I share to help people better understand themselves, not to elevate myself.
In the past I found that people project the perceptions onto others that most resembles their own personality characteristics.
He’s the Forrest Gump of Free Republic.
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It appears to me you use a lot of words to explain a brief response. Imho it doesn’t reflect well on you.
keep It Simple Stupid
It appears to me you use a lot of words to explain a brief response. Imho it doesn’t reflect well on you.
keep It Simple Stupid
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