Posted on 12/07/2023 8:47:27 PM PST by Morgana
Well, yeah, if they have parents like you, they WILL grow up to hate them, Daoust.
Rather, what you have a fornicating society (which itself is wrong and bad), taught that pleasure need not results in its main intent (which include rampant $TIs), with overall spoiled, oversensitive kids (since most 1 or 2 children parents wait to have children until they can do so without the sacrifice generations prior to about 1960 faced, and have only 1 sibling and few relatives to learn how to get along, play with, share, etc. ) and lack discipline (since with one 1 or 2 kids, they are given more freedom) and initiative.
It is character and culture that matters.
I have lived and still do, in a "low-income, mainly Latino city of approx. 45,000 in 2 sq. miles in which most work (plenty of parking till night), yet the kids are overall certainly not poor as were were as a family of 7 beginning in the 50's. But the do have lots of relatives, with many frequent gatherings of such.
Meanwhile, despite the age old lament of overpopulation, (The early Christian writer Tertullian said (around AD 200, in De Anima): "We are burdensome to the world, the resources are scarcely adequate for us... Truly, pestilence and hunger and war and flood must be considered as a remedy for nations, like a pruning of the human race becoming excessive in numbers.")
People have worried about overpopulation on Earth for centuries,.. But a new study found that feeding 10 billion people on Earth is not only possible—but it could be done sustainably as well. - https://news.uchicago.edu/story/feeding-10-billion-people-earth-possible-and-sustainable-scientists-say
Lawrence Solomon says,
In fact, the planet could comfortably manage 29 billion of us. To doubt the Earth can manage a mere quadrupling of today’s human population requires both a failure of imagination and a failure of arithmetic. (https://financialpost.com/opinion/lawrence-solomon-can-earth-handle-29-billion-people-easy)Be single, celibate and continent, or be married and have as many children as God will give, in a life of temperance. Besides negative birth rate, spoiled, over sensitive children are one more of the effects of contraception.
Millennial women are having babies at a slower rate than any previous generation of women in American history. Between the year 2007 and 2012, the rate at which African American women in their 20s had children dropped by 14 percent. The rate at which Caucasian American women in their 20s had children dropped by 11 percent. The rate at which Hispanic American women in their 20s had children dropped by an astounding 26 percent. - https://defendernetwork.com/lead-story/intelligent-reasons-millennials-arent-kids/
Since 1950, the worldwide fertility rate dropped from an average of 4.7 children to 2.4 children. he US birth rate fell by 4% from 2019 to 2020, the sharpest single-year decline in almost 50 years, As Christine Percheski, associate professor of sociology at Northwestern University, told Insider, the declining birth rate is "about women having access to education and employment opportunities. It's about the rise in individualism. It's about the rise in women's autonomy and a change in values." - https://www.businessinsider.com/why-millennials-birth-fertility-rate-declining-fewer-babies-2022-1#its-a-new-world-of-opportunities-for-women-which-has-prompted-them-to-seek-other-paths-to-fulfillment-1According to a new report that raises the possibility that a major shift in the ages when women tend to have kids is on the horizon. ..Until the 1980s, for as long as records were kept, the highest fertility rates worldwide were among women ages 20 to 24, Astone said.
That shifted in the United States and Europe sometime in the 1980s, when women ages 25 to 29 became the most fertile, she said.... We calculate that in 2012, women in their twenties had births at a pace that would lead to 948 births per 1,000 women, by far the slowest pace of any generation of young women in U.S. history,”... “If these low birth rates to women in their twenties continue, the U.S. might eventually face the type of generational imbalance that currently characterizes Japan and some European countries, but it is too early to predict or worry about that eventuality.” - https://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/27/baby-bust-millenials-birth-rate-drop-may-signal-historic-shift.html
But there was a time—1850 to be precise—when huge households, chock full of tykes, were common and considered “right.” US Census data from 1850 show that families with six to nine kids were common.... the culture dictated that a woman’s place was in the home, and her fulfillment was found there, where she served her husband and raised her children. In his 1983 book Family and Divorce in California, 1850-1890, University of Oklahoma historian Robert Griswold cited an article published in the San Mateo Gazette in the mid-19th century that states, “Woman is set in the household and man is sent out into the world.”..Family size in the US peaked between 1860 and 1920 because infant mortality rates were declining while large families were still valued, according to Northern Kentucky University sociologist Joan Ferrante’s 1992 book Sociology: A Global Perspective. Even a woman of modest means could “be happy in the love of her husband, her home, and its beautiful duties without asking the world for its smiles and favors,” the article argued...
Women, Ferrante writes, “The mother’s median age at the time of her last child’s birth was 40 in 1850; by 1940 it had fallen to 27.3.” .. In 1980, less than 0.5% of all households had eight or more children; - https://qz.com/reparations-slavery-uk-trevelyan-grenada-1850156017
1890 (June) Avg. pop. per house-hold 4.93
1930 (Apr.) 4.11
1960 (Mar.) 3.35 - https://www.infoplease.com/us/family-statistics/us-households-size-1790-2006
By Robert Pear, Special To the New York Times April 15, 1987 The average number of people per household in the United States declined last year to 2.67, the least ever recorded, the Census Bureau reported today. - https://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/15/us/average-size-of-household-in-us-declines-to-lowest-ever-recorded.html
The average household was 5.79 people in 1790, which has significantly decreased to 2.58 in 2010. - https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-household-size-by-state
Dec 12, 2022 — The average American household consisted of 2.5 people in 2022. - https://www.statista.com/statistics/183648/average-size-of-households-in-the-us/
A basic solution as far as government is concerned would be simple insofar as possible: ban abortion (except for saving the actual physical life of the mother) and contraceptives, or at least treat the latter like cigarettes, unless needed for a medical condition. And reward married households while not rewarding single parents having additional children thru fornication (which very often perpetuates a cycle), partly by being diligent to find out if there is a man living with the mother while she lists herself as a single to collect more benefits thereby.
And promote adoption.
My two cents.
Nothing you said negates anything I said. My simple point is its not necessarily bad if the population goes down. Its just assumed going up is good, amd if it doesnt its automatically bad.
Its not a terrible thing if the population goes down. It doesn’t always have to keep going up. The human race will not go extinct. In fact we know from Scripture, we don’t go extinct.
The issue is not the world wide effects of population going down, but the real problem of this in most countries, while the major problem is the means by which the birth rate has dramatically declined. For in fact we know from Scripture that nations which are given to fornications will face judgment, and will go extinct.
And if all that matters is how it immediately affect you, then it does in many way, including your wallet:
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