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Why Dropping Most COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Is Now Ethical (flip flop alert)
Health Affairs ^ | December 7, 2023 | Nir Eyal Matthew K. Wynia Thomas D. Harter Debra DeBruin Jason T. Eberl

Posted on 02/29/2024 4:30:35 AM PST by DoodleBob

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Changing an ethical recommendation does not always mean that one has changed values or reconsidered their comparative weights.

True.

But it IS an indicator that the Authority Figure is FOS.

And, FWIW, irony is lost on one of the authors. Wow…


1 posted on 02/29/2024 4:30:35 AM PST by DoodleBob
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And that it’s against international law via the Nuremberg trials to force any individual any medical treatment without their express permission. So there’s that.


2 posted on 02/29/2024 4:36:32 AM PST by albie
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One cannot unring the bell.


3 posted on 02/29/2024 4:39:13 AM PST by EEGator
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Meanwhile...

Stunning Act of Scientific Censorship’: Journal Retracts Peer-Reviewed Study Critiquing COVID-19 Vaccine

4 posted on 02/29/2024 4:41:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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This reads as an excellent example of “how not to do ethics”.


5 posted on 02/29/2024 4:42:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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It was not a secret before, during, or now.... despite the “novelty” of covid.....it was very much like a flu. The flu comes and goes every year. Vaccines sometimes work sometimes dont. Natural immunity is a vital part of moving though a pandemic. However the ethics involved in lying about causes of deaths, lying about natural immunity’s value, lying about the effectiveness of the vaccine, lying about alternative treatments, lying about the origins of the virus all escape me.

Medical community now ranks up there with politicians, lawyers and the media as far as trust goes. That of course renders opinions like this guys useless and truthfully ,laughable.


6 posted on 02/29/2024 4:46:40 AM PST by MrRelevant
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Nuremberg 2.0. Justice


7 posted on 02/29/2024 4:47:39 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Speaking of ethics, on a related note...

United States Responses to Japanese Wartime Inhuman Experimentation after World War II: National Security and Wartime Exigency

8 posted on 02/29/2024 4:52:13 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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lbie wrote: “And that it’s against international law via the Nuremberg trials to force any individual any medical treatment without their express permission. So there’s that.”

First of all, that’s incorrect.
Second, the Nuremberg conventions are not US law.


9 posted on 02/29/2024 5:14:19 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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I couldn’t read the whole thing it was so disgusting. It’s worse than a flip flop, it is self serving swill.


10 posted on 02/29/2024 5:34:10 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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Modern Vaxes are highly effective against Cold-19? Perhaps they should tell the truth about the mask?


11 posted on 02/29/2024 5:50:10 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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However the ethics involved in lying about causes of deaths, lying about natural immunity’s value, lying about the effectiveness of the vaccine, lying about alternative treatments, lying about the origins of the virus \/ However the ethics involved in lying about causes of deaths, lying about natural immunity’s value, lying about the effectiveness of the vaccine, lying about alternative treatments, lying about the origins of the virus BREAKING! They PLANNED the whole thing years in advance. | Redacted w Natali and Clayton Morris this was a live stream 16 hours ago there is a large dead air intro the relavant video starts at 36 m hq720-1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vic9vfkxVsI&t=2990s&pp=2AGuF5ACAcoFOUJyZWFraW5nISBUaGV5IFBMQU5ORUQgdGhlIHdob2xlIHRoaW5nIHllYXJzIGluIGFkdmFuY2UuIA%3D%3D
12 posted on 02/29/2024 5:57:17 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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In other words, you are still an idiot.


13 posted on 02/29/2024 7:20:58 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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wjcsux wrote: “In other words, you are still an idiot.”

The ‘idiots’ are the members of the anti-vaxxer conspiracy cult.


14 posted on 02/29/2024 7:57:58 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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“The ‘idiots’ are the members of the anti-vaxxer conspiracy cult.”

The evidence against you Branch Covidians is stacking up by the day. Your gaslighting days are rapidly coming to a close.


15 posted on 02/29/2024 8:25:30 AM PST by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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wjcsux wrote: “The evidence against you Branch Covidians is stacking up by the day. Your gaslighting days are rapidly coming to a close.”

The fact that the anti-vaxxine folks can only respond with personal attacks, that they avoid factual responses, only proves you are wrong.


16 posted on 02/29/2024 8:29:33 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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its not a vaccine and does not confer immunity from covid and never has, CDC changed the defanition of a vaccine.

OH and prove me wrong.


17 posted on 02/29/2024 4:22:53 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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markman46 wrote: “its not a vaccine and does not confer immunity from covid and never has, CDC changed the defanition of a vaccine.”

No vaccine has ever confered immunity to a disease. There are always breakthrough cases. Regardless of the minor changes in definition, the covid vaccines are still vaccines.


18 posted on 03/01/2024 5:13:42 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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if you believe that you are so very wrong
smallpox, polio etc vax’s do confer immunity.
and no the covid vaccine do not stop you from getting or passing on covid period.


19 posted on 03/01/2024 1:40:39 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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markman46 wrote: “if you believe that you are so very wrong
smallpox, polio etc vax’s do confer immunity. and no the covid vaccine do not stop you from getting or passing on covid period.”

You do realize that you can still get smallpox or polio after you’ve been vaccinated? Just like the COVID vaccines, neither the smallpox or polio vaccines prevent infection in all cases. IOW, no vaccine ‘confers immunity’ if you mean that one cannot become infected after vaccination.


20 posted on 03/01/2024 1:47:46 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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