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Why Donna Brazile's Story Matters – But Not for the Reason You Might Think
Common Dreams ^ | November 7, 2017 | Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone’s chief political reporter

Posted on 11/07/2017 7:39:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 11/07/2017 7:39:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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First, to even speak of Hillary being sick within the DNC would seem to be tantamount to treason, given how hard the campaign worked to deny it. So that sounds awfully risky for her to have been doing on a regular basis as the book suggests. Second:

“If a nominee became disabled, she explains, the party chair would oversee the process of filling the vacancy.”

Doesn’t mean she could just plunk in a substitute of her own choice, there would be some sort of “process” that she would “oversee”. Of course that would have been an E-ticked thing to see ;-) - but wouldn’t it have been far more likely that Bernie would become the nominee than Biden as she has suggested? And putting Bernie in place of Hillary would have torn the D party apart just as if the R party has tried to substitute Jeb! for Trump.

So, maybe a bit of revisionism going on here. Still, bigly entertaining!


2 posted on 11/07/2017 7:48:38 AM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the age of Trump, we’re now throwing all sorts of once-treasured principles – press ethics, free speech, freedom from illegal surveillance – overboard, because the political stakes are now deemed too high to cede ground to Trump over principles.


And by “we”, the author means, “the left”.


3 posted on 11/07/2017 7:48:52 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are a few nuggets of truth in this analysis.

What the author is unwilling to see is that the root of “progressivism” is a lack of faith in the democratic process.

Progressivism, right from the start, was all about elites ordering society for everyone else, and how to lie the right way to get everyone else to allow the elites to stay in power.

The leftists only used democratic processes when they were useful for obtaining power and keeping it. Just the same as any other method. Progressives have always been all about power, and nothing about morals or ethics.


4 posted on 11/07/2017 7:49:11 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There's a video out there of Michelle Malkin ripping Matt Taibbi to shreds over his comments about anally raping women and fantasizing about Malkin performing oral sex on him. I did a youtube search but couldn't find it. A little help?

Why does he still have a job?

5 posted on 11/07/2017 7:50:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wrong.

Everyone did not KNOW it was rigged. True, a lot of people suspected it was rigged; but the DNC denied it was rigged.

The big deal is that this Agreement and Brazile’s corroboration is tantamount to the blue dress. It is proof positive.

Hard to believe they put it in a contract. Then again, certainly hidden in those missing 30,000 emails would be proof positive of Clinton Foundation corruption, among other crimes.


6 posted on 11/07/2017 7:50:33 AM PST by dan on the right
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Matt Taibbi??? Oh, this Matt Taibbi????

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/11/04/rolling-stones-matt-taibbi-either-misogynist-monster-journalistic-fabulist/


7 posted on 11/07/2017 7:51:02 AM PST by Enchante (Bill, Anthony, Harvey .... how does lesbo Hillary manage to surround herself with male predators???)
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"In the age of Trump, we're now throwing all sorts of once-treasured principles – press ethics, free speech, freedom from illegal surveillance – overboard, because the political stakes are now deemed too high to cede ground to Trump over principles."

The only truth I could find in Matt's article. How/why did he let that slip through?

8 posted on 11/07/2017 7:51:42 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Complete cramp. Anything reacting to the leftist Dem party line is dark and evil.


9 posted on 11/07/2017 7:53:04 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (White is the new Black.)
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To: bigbob
"First, to even speak of Hillary being sick within the DNC would seem to be tantamount to treason, given how hard the campaign worked to deny it."

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

10 posted on 11/07/2017 7:54:46 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: marktwain

“Progressivism, right from the start, was all about elites ordering society for everyone else, and how to lie the right way to get everyone else to allow the elites to stay in power”

Well stated.


11 posted on 11/07/2017 7:55:38 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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What bugs me about reading hard-core leftist stuff like this is that just like a Soviet citizen, the leftists constantly see their history being revised, their once strident narratives being changed to suit new facts, and even their so-called basic beliefs being trampled out of convenience to the ideological line of the day.

Yet in the end, they still rally themselves to a new, greater, nebulous boogeyman - of course, the “proto-fascist Trump.”


12 posted on 11/07/2017 7:56:12 AM PST by PGR88
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Oh...that’s intersting that hardrock liberals are loosening opposton to things like extralgal assasinaions.

Heck, (cough) democracies like the Dominican Republican are on-board with that for some time.

Porfirio Ruburosa——infamous Hollywood body man——was the D/R’s “embassy exminer.”

That’s a colorful way the D/R describes a state assassin.


13 posted on 11/07/2017 7:57:52 AM PST by Liz
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Liberals used not to believe in doing these things not only because they understood that they would likely be the first victims in a society stripped of civil protections (a school district forcing the removal of Black Lives Matter stickers is a classic example of a more probable future in a world without civil liberties).

No, they eschewed these tactics because they genuinely believed that debate, discussion, inclusion and democracy brought out the best in us.

I think we may be playing word games here with the use of the term "Liberals".

The Radical Left from the 60s (these are Hillary's people) hated the Liberals. The Liberals were weak. People like Hubert Humphrey?? Bah! Liberal! People like that would not push for the radical, fundamental changes that the New Left was looking for.

If we say (as Taibbi does) that Liberals would not engage in unethical political behavior, this is true. That was a sign of their weakness. But the Liberals are gone. They are history. There are no Liberals. Now we have Progressives -- like Hillary and Obama. There are no rules for these people. They will do whatever it takes. Donna Brazile's book is documentation of this.

The Ends Justify the Means. The real Left has been operating under that principle for a long, long time. And 100 million people are dead because of it.

14 posted on 11/07/2017 8:04:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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” Primary challengers are increasingly seen as reprobates who exist only to bloody the “real” candidate. So they should be kept down and discouraged whenever possible.”

This allowed Trump to get debating experience and made him more credible. He EARNED the Republican nomination. Hillary was seen as being given the job just like her role as Sec of State. She did not earn it.


15 posted on 11/07/2017 8:05:39 AM PST by LetsRok
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“2) But it didn’t matter! Clinton would almost certainly have won the nomination anyway. As her proponents have repeatedly pointed out, the race wasn’t that close. Even as a Sanders supporter, I concede this. “

I’m not so sure that an unrestrained Sanders would not have won. The author is selling the “Hillary is inevitable” line.

Maybe the race wasn’t close BECAUSE of DNC actions.


16 posted on 11/07/2017 8:21:55 AM PST by DBrow
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Why did they bother?

Just as the Clintonites have no contact with fly-over types, they are disproportionately in relationships with Bernie types. When everyone around them who isn’t on the payroll is for Bernie, you think you could lose it ... and your cushy self-important gig ... if you don’t fix it.


17 posted on 11/07/2017 9:07:16 AM PST by spintreebob
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Taibii raises a valid question: why does Hillary always choose lying, cheating and corruption, if she could prevail honestly?

His answer is astounding: Because her Leftist constituency requires total power now, and sees democracy and Constitutional government as impediments. Elections and the rule of law are just gimmicks to be exploited. On this 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution, Taibii admits that his side is driven by Leninist tactics and amorality. We’re supposed to give Hillary a pass, since she is just riding the wave.

IMO Hillary has led the charge to inject criminality into everything she touches, as an extension of her sick personality. She did idolize communists (Alinsky) and intern for a Stalinist lawyer (Robert Truehaft in her youth, and her whole “change from within the system” schtick is reminiscent of how Stalin came to power. Is she is attracted to left wing ideology as a way to justify her criminality rather than the other way around? Or is it just a great fit?


18 posted on 11/07/2017 9:13:03 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; martin_fierro
In the age of Trump, we're now throwing all sorts of once-treasured principles – press ethics, free speech, freedom from illegal surveillance – overboard, because the political stakes are now deemed too high to cede ground to Trump over principles.

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BS...

LIBS.... you have NO PRINCIPLES! You are nothing now but a pack of foul rats chasing after voters who suck the government dry..... and have so little brain power or learning after you "educated" them that they just may vote with you sorry *ssholes!

To hell with all the communists on the left.

*************

ps.--- Where is Pittsburgher martin_fierro when you need him?

YOI .... DOUBLE YOI

19 posted on 11/07/2017 9:23:24 AM PST by a little elbow grease (...... the other side of make believe is here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was not about Hillary. It was all about Hillary’s money. She setup a money laundering operation through the DNC. The party benefited because it was no longer fiscally bankrupt. Just morally bankrupt. Donna Brazille’s Live Matters. Everyone cares about her, at least everyone except the Governor of Virginia and his band of Hillary sycophants.


20 posted on 11/07/2017 9:44:03 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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