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Government shutdown is bound to last into the new year. Democrats are starting to game out an exit.
Vox ^ | December 28, 2018 | Li Zhou

Posted on 12/28/2018 11:26:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DesertRhino; 2ndDivisionVet
"Zero risk for Trump to stand firm. He cannot be more hated or attacked or investigated or more at risk of impeachment.

Stand firm, nothing to lose.

The problem is, there are plenty of GOPe in the house that will quickly fold and join the Dem majority.

Trump is on a political island.

21 posted on 12/29/2018 12:40:04 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Salvavida

LOLOLOL!!!


22 posted on 12/29/2018 12:41:04 AM PST by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Democrats are growing increasingly confident...

Their body heat has warmed up the crap in their adult diapers.

23 posted on 12/29/2018 12:43:38 AM PST by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison)
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To: no-to-illegals; All
Yup. It’s not the money. $25 billion is the equivalent of a rounding error in relationship to the $4 trillion Federal budget.

Trump and the Republicans should make this known to the public 24/7. Sadly, no one bothers to mention it.

24 posted on 12/29/2018 12:48:51 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blame = Credit.

Democrats lie always.

Vox is Fake News with a new name makeover.


25 posted on 12/29/2018 12:59:49 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The democraps have a lot more to lose becuase there will be no food in the pig trough without a signiture from Trump!


26 posted on 12/29/2018 1:15:50 AM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “cash for clunkers” fiasco cost $3 billion.


27 posted on 12/29/2018 1:16:39 AM PST by SpaceBar
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28 posted on 12/29/2018 1:25:15 AM PST by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime." - Donald J. Trump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No border wall/security, no second term.


29 posted on 12/29/2018 1:51:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: pepsionice

He will run and win again.

The Mueller stuff will be shut down and his policies will take his current 48 percent approval over the top.

He knows how to make lemonade more than any other president in recent memory.


30 posted on 12/29/2018 2:00:46 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, they’ll blame Trump, for sure...but the beauty of that is, Trump told them from the start that he’d “take the mantle” for the shutdown.

When the libs and media speak of “Americans”, they are only speaking for their “mutual admiration society”, or, other liberals.

But there are a lot of people out there who have watched the libs expose themselves as to their real, socialist priorities. Most folks know this “open borders” BS by the libs is just for “vote generation”, to keep them in power.

There’s talk now of a “new caravan”, 15,000 strong, forming in central America; the dems see to be behind it all the way; But, what would happen if suddenly 15,000 (armed) patriots descended to our American/Mexican border to DEFEND our country? The democrats would go nuts! They would be calling for “troops” to the border to stop it, when they were/are against “troops at the border” to protect us from illegal aliens.

Fighting fire with fire is the only thing that’s ever going to solve this conundrum happening in today’s America. But, first we’ve got to re-discover America, “land of the brave” to drag folks off their sofa, and away from their cell phones long enough to fight to preserve our freedom.


31 posted on 12/29/2018 2:52:22 AM PST by FrankR (Make America Great Again, and Keep It That Way.)
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To: 4Liberty

I just saw the picture in this article and thought something similar—it appears we are more willing to really use deterrent wire against American criminals than against alien criminals:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2018/12/29/growing-elderly-population-poses-problem-in-prisons/


32 posted on 12/29/2018 3:35:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TheNext

Re Vox news:
Ezra Klein - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Klein
Ezra Klein (born May 9, 1984) is an American journalist, blogger, and Left-wing politics commentator who works as editor-at-large of Vox.


33 posted on 12/29/2018 3:43:14 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This whole mess can be laid at the feet of Ryan and McConnell. If they had funded the wall when the GOP safely had the majority none of this would even be a question. But of course we all knew they had no intention of fulfilling their promises and that they only ran on building a wall just to get elected.


34 posted on 12/29/2018 3:52:24 AM PST by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats are growing increasingly confident that President Donald Trump’s immovable demand for $5 billion for his southern border wall is going to land him with the blame, and indeed, polling is already starting to suggest that could be the case.

I don't blame him, I give him the credit for taking the righteous stand.....I wonder how many of the polls use my slant as a "blame" vote....

35 posted on 12/29/2018 4:07:52 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: SpaceBar

Not only that, but cash for clunkers caused a shortage and thus significantly raised prices for the clunkers by which the working poor, teens, and young adults have traditionally been able to get themselves to work and started up the economic ladder.


36 posted on 12/29/2018 4:13:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blame? You mean credit.


37 posted on 12/29/2018 4:36:06 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stand firm Donald! The IRS is one of the groups on Furlough, how long can the Government last with no money coming in?


38 posted on 12/29/2018 4:56:14 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Reno89519

If we no longer have a country we no longer have need of a wall or a budget.


39 posted on 12/29/2018 4:57:21 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Reno89519
i> No Wall Funds, No Deal. Rather Simple.

Yup. The Democrats “can looking at” all the CRomnibus they want. If there is no border wall funding, forget it.
I am quite happy for the 25% of the government to be shut down for two years until the next elections.

40 posted on 12/29/2018 5:06:11 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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