''Bring us home now" (Leftist Fiction?-what say ye?)

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Great find. That ones even more ridiculous.

(CFTM Editors Note: I have been getting an extreme amount of hate mail from people calling me a liar and saying I made these articles up out of thin air. I can deal with attacks on me and slander directed at me. What I cannot tolerate is all those who claim to be vets and serving soldiers who attack these brave men, call them cowards, and smear their names with hate and slander. These men were extremely brave and I believe they are true heroes for having the courage to speak out, knowing the military could come after them and make their lives a living hell. If you want to spout any hatred then direct it towards me, not these brave soldiers who are standing up for what they believe is right.”)

I had the unique opportunity to interview five US military servicemen who just got back from Iraq, or in the case of two men, corresponded with their wives so that I could ask questions of these soldiers by mail. When the two I corresponded with came back just last week, I was able to complete the interviews I started several months ago with some new details on how the war is actually going.

I was shocked and angered when I found out how many of the service men hate being in Iraq and want nothing to do with rebuilding and policing the devastated nation. From the conversations I had, many soldiers never wanted to go over to Iraq and fight, and the ones who had were now convinced of the awful crime that had been committed against Iraq and our own troops. I was told very few soldiers now believe in staying in Iraq, or want to stay in the country and serve any more days.

The following interview is with a sergeant in the U.S. Army who until recently has been completely dedicated to the cause of the US and 100% patriotic by his own definition. He said he has never had the reason or want to question the government or the validity of his mission in the Army.

This interview is written in his own words and I have tried to leave it as intact as possible so that his pain and anger can come through to you the reader. I will warn you that the language is very rough and the grammar is not always correct.

This interview is somewhat different than the last two, as he was very hostile towards me and not very cooperative in many respects. The last two interviews were with soldiers who had been completely disillusioned, but this sergeant has not given up hope that Iraq can be turned around, although he was not able to really say how.

He has asked to be simply called Sarge in all the transcripts of these interviews. He had one wish, and that was that no one would think that he had sold out to the left wing. He says he remains strongly Republican and as he said “A red blooded American soldier!”

CFTM—“I know you do not really want to do this and I will make it as quick as possible. I think that this interview can help convince those soldiers trying to maintain a sense of duty and loyalty to speak out without compromising their beliefs.”

Sarge—“ Whatever man. I really don’t want to do this but I talked to my friend and he said you did him right when you showed him the written copy. I am telling you if you misquote me or add anything to this I will find you and kill you. I’m not kidding, I will put you in the ground if you lie about what I said.”

CFTM—“I am doing this to bring out the truth about how bad it is in Iraq and what you guys are going through. I just want to give you guys a voice and outlet for all your pain and suffering. I am doing this to try to get America to ask Bush to bring you all home.”

Sarge—“Whatever man. It better not come out wrong or I know a whole bunch of guys that will line up around the block to kick your ass to sleep. I am not going to threaten you anymore, just remember that when you write this down. You better not change one fu..ing word.”

“Now what do you want to ask me. You better not try to make me go against my oath of duty or give you stuff that is classified, or shit that’s not right to talk about.”

CFTM—“Okay let’s get to it. I know that you were in some serious combat and I want to get an idea of how many times a day you were attacked or fired upon. You already refused to give the area you were in so we’ll keep this vague like you wanted.”

Sarge—“Damn right we’re gonna keep it vague, I don’t want anyone in my unit or my parents knowing I talked to you. I am only doing this because I know there is a bunch of shit wrong with the way we are running Iraq and how we are being ordered to fight. I love my country and I am proud to be an American soldier. Don’t you even think about making it look like I am ashamed of what I did or what I am going back to do.”

“I always wanted to be in the military since I was a little kid. I would always dress up like a soldier and play war and at Halloween I was always a soldier. My dad was in the service for over 20 years and I grew up on bases around the world. My dad would drop dead right now if he knew I was talking to you.”

CFTM—“Are you sure you want to do this? I can always get someone else to talk to me.”

Sarge—“Don’t be an idiot, you stupid asshole! If you waste my time I will beat you down! I went out of my way to meet with you and talk about this, don’t you dare disrespect me now. All you are is a fu..ing peace loving hippie shithead, but my buddy says you are ok, so I am trusting him, not you.”

“I’ll talk to you up to a certain point and then when I want to stop this it’s over. You better ask some good questions and get it done with. I need to get this done and over, so I stop feeling guilty for speaking out.”

CFTM—“The first thing I want to find out about is this gag order I have heard about. Did they really tell you not to speak to the press on penalty of up to twenty years in Leavenworth? I have had several guys tell me about being told not to say anything against the government or anything negative about Iraq. Is this really true or did someone just play with me?”

Sarge—“I have not been directly ordered not to talk but it was sometimes a part of our general weekly briefing that we got. I know that the Army has been going after the guys that got on the computer and made big statements about dying for oil. I thought they were stupid assholes at first but I am slowly changing my mind after seeing all the guys die and hearing all the W.I.A(wounded in action) reports.”

“You know that for every one of us killed there are about eight or nine wounded? It’s not the combat casualties that are really sapping our strength, it’s losing all those men to injuries and illness. I think my unit had a very high death toll, but I don’t know how high. I know we lost at least fifteen since the start of the ground war.”

“So I can see why those guys are getting on the Internet and bitching about what is happening. I know a lot of guys were pissed that we didn’t have enough Kevlar body armor and we were really short on some stuff like chemical suits, water and food sometimes.

CFTM—“Did you guys ever run out of food or water? How bad was it really?”

Sarge—“Man we ran out of water a bunch of times and it’s hot as fu.k over there. It is like 130 in the direct sun with the sand reflecting the sunlight. It was getting so hot in our vehicles during the day that some guys had to be evaced for heatstroke and dehydration. It is like a furnace inside a Bradley or an Abrams tank. Fu.k, it got so hot sometimes inside them that water would almost boil. If you left the top off your canteen it would be empty in less than an hour from evaporation.”

“Food got real short a couple times and we did run out of food twice. If you live on M.R.E.s (meals ready to eat, the staple of the Army on the go) for months at a time, real food almost makes you sick, it’s so rich compared to that dried out shit in a plastic pouch. Those new meals are supposed to be so great, but they fu..ing suck after the first week or so. ”

“I had a big juicy steak for my first stateside meal and it made me sick. I still ate another one right away because it tasted so fu..ing good. I had some beer that night and got shit faced drunk and I forgot all about the war for a few hours. I have been drinking almost non-stop and I hope I don’t become a drunk.”

CFTM—“Let’s get into the way Bush seems to want to get you guys killed. I know you heard the whole “Bring It On!” speech and the controversy surrounding it. Did you see any increased fighting after he made that speech?”

Sarge—“Fu..ing Bush may as well have just come right out and said ‘Please kill our soldiers, we want you to attack them and send them home wounded or in a body bag’. When I heard that shit I started to lose my faith in him as my leader. It is hard for me to think that way, but that’s how I am thinking now. What the f...k was he thinking when he went and did that? he had to know that it would just piss off all the Iraqis and make them want to attack us even more.”

“Bring it on? Why the hell would any commander in chief ever say some shit like that??? Is he that stupid or is his staff the ones who are stupid? Right after he said that bullshit we started getting hit almost every time we were in a convoy. It was like he waved a red flag and they started really trying to kill us twice as much then. We were getting shot at and ambushed at least ten times a day if not more. I saw a few guys get hit and it fu..ed me up pretty bad, I knew a few and it sucked that they had no chance to fight back.”

“I really started thinking this war might not be completely right for the first time after a couple weeks of getting hit everyday and watching guys get hurt really bad. My biggest fear is that I will get shot or have a bomb blow us up, and I end up in a wheel chair or missing an arm or leg.”

(Here is a list of wounded on each day as reported by CentCom and it is not a complete list by any means. http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/WndByDate.aspx Here is an index of dead and wounded also provided by CentCom which also is not complete by any means http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx and also this is a daily listing of deaths of both combat and non-combat deaths http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Details.aspx )

“We’re going to have a whole new crop of disabled vets and families without fathers and mothers now. That is one of the reasons I am even talking to you.”

CFTM—“So conditions were getting really bad before you left?”

Sarge—“ Man conditions suck some major ass right now. Morale sucks, people are committing suicide, the Iraqis hate us and want us all dead, it’s hot as hell and the food sucks, it just is not fun or even near being nice. I have to go back and I am going to do it because it’s my duty and I wouldn’t want to do anything else. I want to be in the military and I am proud to be in Iraq. I just want it to really mean something more than what it does know.”

“I have not seen any rebuilding or anything like the US and Bush promised all the Iraqi people. That is one of the reason they are so pissed off and hate us like they do. We haven’t started to do shit to really help them, not like we the mission we were supposed to be there to do.”

“I am a Republican and proud of that to. I voted for Bush and I want him to lead this country against our enemies like he promised. I never thought a few months ago that I would be saying this to anyone. I wanted to go to Iraq and do what had to be done. I would have volunteered if I hadn’t had my unit ordered over. Now I wonder why I was so quick to get on the big bandwagon.”

“I am a red blooded American soldier and I am proud of my country. I just think Bush needs to change the way we are fighting this war. Give us more men to do the job or figure out how to keep the peace over here. I didn’t sign up to be a fu..ing cop or a peace keeper, I joined up to fight and to protect and defend my country. I never thought I would be acting like a cop in Iraq and not being able to figure out who was my enemy.”

CFTM—“So you’re not mad at Bush or the rest of his cabinet, or anyone at the Pentagon? Some guys I talked to hate the whole regime and want to get a new commander in chief.”

Sarge—“Hell no, I don’t hate them and I’m a little angry with them but it is over all the guys that have died in this war that we might have been able to keep alive. I have to live with whoever our leaders are, that is my duty as a soldier. I will say it again, I love America and think it’s the best country in the world. Anyone who says something else is gonna have to fight me.”

“You know I think you hate being an American, and you make me sick! You damn protester and commie scum. I’m done wasting my time talking to you, you are the most unpatriotic asshole I have ever met. Fu.k off and die!”

CFTM—“Thanks for your time and courage in giving me this interview. I just want to see all you guys come home safe.”

Sarge—“Well at least you have some kind of sense and maybe you aren’t all bad, I just think you should support the US. I am going home now, remember what I said about changing a single word I said to you. Not one mistake or I will find you! God Bless America, love it or leave it asshole!”

Anyone know what name Jason Blair is writing under these days? Hmmmmmm.......

Hmmm...well, to put it in terms the author might recognize, this piece of work is a f*cking, pucking, bag of sh*t. But then again, since this left-wing nut isn't a military man, and likely has never met a military man, perhaps the terminology is as foreign to him as "truth".

If any part of this were true, we'd all know it, because in fact, huge numbers of Reservists are moving into Iraq on active duty, and out of Iraq back to personal life. Journalists are able to move anywhere they want to, providing they're willing to take the risk. (They felt safe playing the whore for Sadam in Bagdad, but now that freedom reigns in Iraq, they're scared to death to leave the confines of their hotels. What's that tell you about the "mainstream" journalists? But I degress...) If body bags were stacking up at 30 per day from one single combat unit, or half the other crap that this guy invented were indeed happening, you wouldn't have to go to left-wing, Bush-hating, anti-military, traitorous web sites to find out about it.

I'm close to some folks who recently returned from their tour in Iraq. There is no feedback like this coming out of genuine active duty personnel. There maybe a few malcontents, like aways, but no left-wing SNCO's. (They always find a way to stay out of combat.)

The author is a leftist, who like most leftist ascribe to situational ethics and moral relativity. He would consider it virtuous to make up a story like this of whole cloth, while claiming to protect anonoymous sources. Leftists always lie. They never tell the truth; ever! So, why publish this crap on FR?

SFS

"pucking" = puking...but, well, you all get the idea.

I read that there and he rebukes a guy who claims that it's fake by saying the other 3 parts the interviews went against him.

The trouble is I can't find those parts. They're not on any website and not in his yahoo group *snicker*

I'm getting major doubtful on this.

Ah, it's time to Fisk this Clymer.

From the conversations I had, many soldiers never wanted to go over to Iraq and fight, and the ones who had were now convinced of the awful crime that had been committed against Iraq and our own troops.

Wow. That was not my experience talking to Marines leaving San Diego in the months leading up to the war.

I was told very few soldiers now believe in staying in Iraq, or want to stay in the country and serve any more days.

I'm sure you were told that by somebody. Notice how he doesn't say that soldiers told him that?

He told me the Army had put a gag order on him while he was home, and told him they would give him twenty years in prison if he spoke out in any manner against the US or the government.

This story is pure Grade-A bulls**t.

You do NOT get 20 years merely for talking to a journalist and saying things your seniors dislike.

I took several weeks to finish this interview because of not being able to safely be seen with this individual out of his fears of being caught speaking out.

The goobermint is following this enlisted guy around?

They'd only do that if he were actually accused of criminal conduct, and then he'd just be on lockdown inside the base.

He asked me to call him USA in all the transcripts of these interviews. I have followed his wishes and tried to write what he said in the manner it was said so as not to lose any impact. At times the interview was very rough and the grammar is not perfect, but I tried to write this in his voice so that he can tell the world how bad it is in Iraq.

Perpetuating the myth that enlisted personnel are uneducated peons.

Many senior NCOs have graduate degrees in a range of fields--from education, to business administration, to electrical engineering. One of the best staff NCOs I served with in the Marines had a MA in literature.

I truly want you to feel what he has experienced in some way if possible.

I truly doubt that he really has experienced this.

CFTM-- “How are you today? Resting I hope?”

USA-- “Can’t sleep for sh..t and I have horrible nightmares when I do sleep. I might be lucky to catch an hour at a time before the nightmares wake me up. I slept easier in the combat then now that I’m away from there. Most awful place I’ve ever been or served duty and I didn’t want to leave my guys. That was the hardest part was leaving the guys I had been leading around and trying to keep out of trouble and alive.”

Playing to the stereotypes of combat-vets-as-delayed-stress-timebombs...

CFTM-- “Did you see a lot of your buddies get killed? How did it affect you?”

USA-- “How the hell do you think it affected me? I saw over 30 of the men I had to keep safe die, and over 100 get wounded and not come back.

There were 356 total KIAs in Operation Iraqi Freedom among US Army, US Marines, US Navy, US Air Force, the Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy, and the British Army. I counted 200 US Army KIAs on a web page memorial that lists all 356 KIAs. This figure--200--includes noncombat deaths, EOD personnel killed neutralizing explosive devices, et cetera.

This guy is claiming to have led 15% of the US Army's KIAs.

Incidentally, I looked for US units--no single unit had 30 KIAs.

"Stolen Valor."

I still don’t know if some of the wounded men made it or not. I was never told before I came back home.”

Bulls**t. The US Army takes great pains to communicate the condition of wounded personnel to their seniors. If this guy didn't know, it was because he wasn't reading the damn reports.

CFTM-- “So it really was awful and as bad as some returning troops have claimed?”

USA-- “It was like a long trip to hell that you knew you might return from. Of course it is as bad as the soldiers say it is. Hell it’s even worse if the truth has to come out. It’s a constant fu..ing nightmare trying to figure out where the guerillas are going to hit, how to keep the civilians calm, and also getting enough water and food to eat. That is one thing the media never really told the Americans about, how bad it was when our convoys weren’t getting through. We had to go to some Iraqi people and trade socks and underwear for some food and a little water.”

US forces are typically overstocked with all manner of supplies. I have heard ZERO claims that anyone was in danger of running out of food or water.

CFTM-- “You really did get that desperate because I saw it in the foreign media that the Iraqi civilians had stepped in and fed a whole bunch of troops that had been days without food.”

USA-- -“Yeah, that ain’t no joke about getting help from the civilians right after the invasion. We had a pretty good laugh about that and how the army owed them some money for reimbursement. We would not have starved probably, but when we got the food from the people it made sure we could still operate as a functioning unit. It was a near thing that several guys almost died of dehydration because we ran out of clean water for a few days.”

So they proceeded to drink Iraqi water.

Yeah, right.

CFTM-- “Just keep going, I want to hear more about the hardships the military and Bush made you go through. I want the American people to know what a nightmare this war has become and what it’s doing to our service men over there.”

USA-- “Okay, well I can bitch about the problems like food being short and water going bad, but I want to tell people about how bad the attacks on US and coalition forces have gotten in the last month. In the last two weeks I was there we were attacked at least 20 times a day if you count all the shots we heard from random sniper or opportunity attacks. We were losing at least five men a day to injuries and there was at least one of our unit killed every twenty four hours.”

Five a day to injuries? One KIA every day in his unit?

He's claiming that every KIA in Iraq came from his unit.

BRAVO SIERRA ALERT

CFTM-- -“So you were getting one a day killed and at least five injured? Did you know many of the guys killed?”

USA-- -“That’s a real dumb fu..ing question to ask me. You know what my rank is, of course I knew them, I was the head NCO for years in our unit. I knew most of the guys who died and I held a lot of hands as they were dying. You tell me that’s not gonna to give you nightmares!”

Yup, another snippet stolen from Vietnam stories.

“I had one guy tell me all he wanted was to see his little daughter; she was born three days after the war started. He died in the sand holding my hand and crying because his daughter would never know him. Tell me that’s fu..ing right. Where was George Bush when this kid was gasping for air and spitting his blood on foreign soil?”

Gosh. Where was Bill Clinton when US troops were dying in Mogadishu? Where was Bill Clinton when US troops died in the Khobar Towers bombing? Where was Bill Clinton when US sailors were dying aboard the USS Cole?

CFTM-- -“I talked to you about this the other day. Do you think George Bush is the wrong man to order troops into battle when he ducked it himself?”

USA-- -“That asshole went AWOL and never showed up for duty and then he has the nerve to take us into two different wars that will be going on for years. I do not believe he should be president of this country, he’s a complete idiot and he’s controlled by madmen with a drive for only profits and getting oil.”

Standard leftist talking point #147,882: it's all about oil and Bush's oil cronies.

CFTM-- -“I just have to get this straight for the public, you are well educated are you not? I mean you have had years of leadership training and schools right? You sound very well informed and aware of the current lies and manipulations, which I have not found in some other soldiers.”

USA-- -“I have a four year degree in the economics field and I am not a soldier all the time. I am Reservist who just keeps getting caught on long duty assignments.

He's a reservist?

Gee, very few of the soldiers who have died in Iraq were in Army Reserve units.

Believe it or not I read authors like Noam Chomsky, Gore Vidal, and Jim Hightower, and went through three copies of ‘Stupid White Men’ by Michael Moore while I was over there.

Anyone who reads Noam Chomsky in the US military is regarded with deep suspicion.

I let people read parts of Mike’s book and they were irate that Bush had screwed us so hard. I had parts of ‘Best Democracy Money Can Buy’ mailed to me because I knew if I had the whole book it would get stolen in a heartbeat.”

Yeah, as if anyone's dumb enough to steal the top kick's stuff.

CFTM-- -“So you might be quite a bit more aware and well informed about the real reasons for the war that others did not know. I don’t know of many line soldiers reading Greg Palast or Noam Chomsky.”

(That's because they generally don't.)

USA-- -“I guess you’re right and that might be why I am trying to speak out and let the Americans know that they are sending us to be slaughtered.

Then they're not doing a very good job of it.

If you don’t mind I am going to cut through all the niceties and get down to why I am going against every oath I took and giving you this interview.

What oath? The Booger Oath?

I am doing it for the guys still over there and for the ones who are going. If I’m not careful I’ll end up back there for another six months."

God, I hope not.

CFTM-- -“Alright tell me what it was really like and don’t skip the gory details. I want people to be shocked and offended enough to realize why you spoke out and what it is doing to our military by sending them over there with blind flag waving and cheers of false victory”

Yup. No bias there.

USA-- -“Well the first thing I would like to thank Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Congress for is that nice huge cut they made to Veterans Benefits as soon as the war started.

Wow. Talking point #451,093.

I am in the Reserves after years of active duty and now I cannot get PTSD counseling or many medical benefits I used to take for granted.

Uh-huh. EVERYONE needs PTSD counseling, yeah, right...

I knew I would have the benefits because I was laying my life down for my country. Now my benefits are cut by around 2/3 and I have to go to either group therapy or pay for a private counselor out of my own pocket.

That is complete BS.

What happens when someone like me has been through enormous battle stress and combat fatigue and then comes home to no counseling?”

What happens when he find out what a lying sack of s**t you are, sonny boy?

“I’ll tell you what is going to happen, he will either kill himself or take a bunch of people with him.

"Give me my welfare bennies or else."

Some of the guys coming back are going to have gone through the worst time of their lives with their buddies dying and getting hurt, and then they’ll find out they got screwed out of any counseling.

And they will thank God for it, because VA counseling is probably the worst there is.

But DO keep up those Vietnam-vet stereotypes.

It is the greatest disservice America is committing against soldiers who fought for this country and may come back wounded or horribly scarred. Medical services, school aid to dependents, school aid for the vets, all slashed to the bare bones; mental health and drug and alcohol counseling are being eliminated or the waiting lists will be years long for whatever services manage to survive.”

“That is one thing the American people still have not really caught on to is the fact that while they were screaming out ‘Support Our Troops’ the current regime makers were fu..ing the military and veterans out of almost every social program and non essential service that would make life easier.” “Bush really fu..ked us while we were gone. We found out about after being in the middle of heavy fighting for several weeks. It was one of the first things I read in Stars and Stripes, and I thought it was a joke because it was just to hard to believe Congress and our leaders would screw us that bad while we were fighting and dying.” CFTM-- -“Glad you brought that up about counseling because I wasn’t even aware of it. Are you alright to talk about some of the civilian casualties you witnessed and some of the horrifying images you told me about when we first started talking?”

“Let me tell you about the cluster bomb raid we saw wipe out a whole bunch of little kids. It looked like they had already lost their parents and were trying to salvage food from a destroyed Iraqi convoy by the side of the road we were on. The kids were way off to the side about half a mile away by then when we got the word that the Iraqi column was going to be hit with cluster bombs and we had to clear the area. We got on the radio and tried to get the air strike stopped but we were told it was too late to get it stopped.”

Gosh. Too bad air strikes don't work like this.

Among other things, we don't waste ordnance on already-destroyed vehicles. We also have multiple ways to call off the airstrikes when we can't "deconflict" the area.

“We could see the body parts flying up into the air after the bombs hit. It was terrible and we could not do a damn thing but watch it happen and scream into the radio at the dumb sh.t pilot that was dropping the bombs.

If you had radio contact witht the pilot while he was dropping the bombs, and you didn't call "ABORT ABORT ABORT," then you're just as guilty.

“I damn sure will not go back over there even if they throw me in Leavenworth. I never could understand how a guy could be a conscientious objector until what I just went through. I wish more guys would stand up and tell Bush and the Pentagon they will not fight their war for oil. We should not have to die for these rich bastards profits and enrichment.”

Yet another leftie talking point.

This is laughably phony. What a waste of disk space on FR's servers.

Let's see. 30 of the dead are in his unit. He's an NCO per the article. Total dead in the war plus occupation is about 300. So his unit took one-tenth of all the casualties in the war??

That sounds really improbable. How many troops would an NCO typically command?

At the 20-year mark, he's a Sergeant First Class or a 1st Sergeant. SFC is a platoon sergeant, about 16-44 soldiers. A 1st Sergeant is a company NCO, 62-190 soldiers.

I missed that daughter comment.

That'd make it real easy to figure out "his unit".

I didn't bother with it because it was so frickin' Hollyweird.

" ... went through three copies of ‘Stupid White Men’ by Michael Moore while I was over there."

Toilet paper?

What a load of poo!!!!! I've met hundreds of incoming flights which equals thousands of troops. I have spoken in depth with hundreds of them and most sound nothing like this! Does this sleazoid think that the only people qualified to speak to our troops is media?

Thanks. So if he's as senior as he claims, then he read Chomsky to one out of every two or one out of every six soldiers in his unit as he held their hand and they lay dying.

I don't believe it. The NYT or LAT or Washington Post would have picked up on a unit this decimated ages ago and made it three-inch, front-page headlines.

It's fabricated or the 'nco' is lying.

You broke-a da code!

Maybe your "Fraud" unit can investigate the form letters from our troops to home town papers even when such troopers families had moved years ago from those towns? I believe this over anything coming from Bush on Iraq right now.

HAHAHAHAH!!!!

Dude, we looked into it. Everything in the letters were true. Turns out a LC was pissed off the media was lying and wrote up some form letters for his troops to send home. Almost everyone was signed by the soldier. A few weren't signed but still sent home.

It's a nice sliderule the Bush haters use. Deliberate fraud and lies about Iraq are "bad" but understandable but when the truth is told but it's in a form lewtter people are ready to storm the White House.

If the left wins the White House in 2004 we can blame the sucker vote.

I have seen posts on this site that denounce any trooper who has a bad word to say about their stay in Iraq. These letters are a bad joke. And if you think a "Brigade Commander" thought this up in Iraq then I have a bridge to sell you!

And PS- I am not a Bush hater. I will work for his re-election and give money to his campaign if only because of the Supreme Court. But I am not a fool. I didn't appreciate being treated as such under Clinton and I don't now under Bush.

"And if you think a "Brigade Commander" thought this up in Iraq then I have a bridge to sell you!"

You know personally I'm thinking Carlysle Group. It fits their MO.