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ANTHRAX POWDER - STATE OF THE ART?
Science ^ | 11/27/2003 | Gary Matsumoto

Posted on 11/27/2003 12:42:11 PM PST by TrebleRebel

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To: SevenDaysInMay; Shermy; aristeides; Fred Mertz; swarthyguy
Yes, the dead scientists!

Don Wiley at the bridge in Memphis.

Lots of FR archived threads about that.

If dead nuke scientists during pre-nuked Japan turned up, wouldnt we know who did it?
21 posted on 11/27/2003 2:03:15 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: Shermy
My memory is fading.

A while back I was on a rant about Kay being not good and the company he had worked for I was saying was spooky.

Ive been off the puter for months trying to cool down my anger.

But now, I am back!
22 posted on 11/27/2003 2:07:03 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
Here are their names-
1) Dr. Benito Que - Cell Biologist, comatose in November

2) Dr. Don Wiley - Infectious disease researcher, dead Nov (apparent suicide)

3) Dr Vladimir Pasechnik - Biopreparat scientist, dead Nov

4) Dr Robert Schwartz - DNA sequencing researcher murdered in Dec.

5) Set Van Nguyen - microbioliogist died in an air lock filled with nitrogen.
23 posted on 11/27/2003 2:13:08 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Sabertooth; Shermy
If it was made in Iraq, how come we haven't found the site where it was made?
24 posted on 11/27/2003 2:15:21 PM PST by aristeides
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To: backhoe; TaxRelief
How would these guys be reacting to the feds-anthrax charade if they were alive?

We can "back engineer their responses" if we had the time.

Wiley would be the easiest to do, in fact I did something like that on earlier threads and some freepers screamed I didnt "understand the science".
25 posted on 11/27/2003 2:26:47 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: Betty Jo
FYI- here's all I could find quickly:

The Deaths of Five Microbiologists: Murder, Suicide, Accident
... bizarre connection between one of the dead scientists and the mystery surrounding the death ... occurred on Monday afternoon as the scientist left his job at University of Miami's ... colleagues and Dr. Wiley's family, the Harvard Scientist associated with the Howard Hughes Medical ...
Description: It is a story worthy of a major conspiracy theory, the script for a Mel Gibson "Who dunnit?" action movie, or a blueprint for a contrived and unbelievable episode of "The X Files". Except the facts surrounding this story are just that. Facts. The Truth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/602682/posts  -  187 KB

26 posted on 11/27/2003 2:45:15 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keybored Cowboy, riding the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe
Humm! Bad link, try this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/602682/posts
27 posted on 11/27/2003 2:46:40 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keybored Cowboy, riding the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Glad I'm not the only one thinking back to Wiley's demise in the Mississippi. His forte wasn't anthrax but ebola/small pox, HIV and such.
28 posted on 11/27/2003 3:04:49 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: Shermy
Excellent article. Thanks for the ping.

The degree of technology involved in the Daschle anthrax curiously remains in dispute. But this article suggests that a consensus might be forming...

"Bathtub bacteria" produced by a "rogue scientist", my butt.

29 posted on 11/27/2003 3:05:21 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Shermy; Boot Hill; sasquatch; DoughtyOne; RLK
Excellent piece. Having been involved with electrostatic spray equipment and formulations chemistry, using some of the same chemicals as are discussed in the article (for paint folks, don't get excited), there are alarm bells going off in my head. This can't be that hard to do.
30 posted on 11/27/2003 3:19:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by politics.)
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To: genefromjersey
That would leave us: Pakistan,India,China, and N. Korea.

When Ayman Zawahiri was busted a few years back by the Russians, evidence was found on him that he maintained a bank account in Guangdong.

31 posted on 11/27/2003 3:23:20 PM PST by per loin
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To: aristeides
If it was made in Iraq, how come we haven't found the site where it was made?

Broken up hidden or Iraq bought the stuff from Russia or hidden in Iran or Syria...or Iraq never involved in the first place.

Things might turn on this article...

32 posted on 11/27/2003 3:28:09 PM PST by Shermy
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To: genefromjersey
I checked my handy dandy (so-so) reference guide:

http://www.GlobalSecurity.org

and winnowed through the countries reported to possess bioweapons (Click on "special weapons"; then click on "country list").

North Korea, Pakistan, India,Egypt, and China come to the forefront. China is believed to have " advanced biotechnology infrastructure " and is confirmed to have ignored the Bioweapons Convention of 1987,to which it was a signatory party,and exported special weapons to at least one country: Iran-(which has capabilities of its own.)

Iran,could very well be added to the list of states willing to go the extra mile to terrorize us.

India should also be taken into consideration,oddly enough, as they have "substantial potential for bioweapons production for offensive purposes".Among the nice stuff they have studied for this purpose are:

Anthrax,brucellosis,cholera,bubonic plague,smallpox,viral hemorrhagic fever,and botulism.

There have been disease outbreaks in remote parts of India that are reminiscent of cold-blooded bioweapon testing on some of their "minority" ( Non-Hindu ) population.

Although they do a lot of business with us,they have never been overly fond of us, and are most certainly sophisticated enough to mount a "false flag" bio-attack; especially if they were able to convince us their sworn enemy,Pakistan was behind it.
33 posted on 11/27/2003 3:53:45 PM PST by genefromjersey (So little time - so many FLAMES to light !!)
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To: Shermy
thanks for the ping, I'll read it later. I've been in the kitchen ALL day!
34 posted on 11/27/2003 3:58:02 PM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: aristeides
Cause Iraq is big and we're looking for something small and probably underground besides.
35 posted on 11/27/2003 5:33:42 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: TrebleRebel
Is that report from this month's Science Magazine?
36 posted on 11/27/2003 6:04:37 PM PST by Symblized
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To: All
http://www.news.harvard.edu/special/2001/wiley/mcmahon.html

"With this in mind,the speculation of a bio-terrorist link to Don's disappearance is far-fetched to say the least."

I laugh every time I read that.

Don would be working non-stop on SARS if he was with us today.

The terrs are determined to kill us all.

One way will be through bio-weapons.

Wiley would have saved us, therefore, he was killed.

I absolutely believe that the terrs killed Don Wiley to prevent him from working on vaccines.
37 posted on 11/27/2003 6:20:06 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: genefromjersey
"There have been disease outbreaks in remote parts of India that are reminiscent of cold-blooded bioweapon testing on some of their "minority" ( Non-Hindu ) population."

India never really got hit with SARs last year...several on FR were watching and waiting to see if there would be a natural population immunity.
38 posted on 11/27/2003 6:37:05 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG..)
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/608476/posts

See my # 23
39 posted on 11/27/2003 6:37:39 PM PST by Betty Jo
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Judith Anne; riri
FYI
40 posted on 11/27/2003 6:41:27 PM PST by Betty Jo
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