Vanity: An Open Message to the Republican Party Cheerleaders on this Forum...

12-10-03 | Vanity

[little jeremiah]

I think this quote are appropriate here:

"[T]he States can best govern our home concerns and the general
government our foreign ones. I wish, therefore...never to see
all offices transferred to Washington, where, further withdrawn
from the eyes of the people, they may more secretly be bought
and sold at market." --Thomas Jefferson

[Sloth]

You are, of course, correct.

[longtermmemmory]

No but look again and see how the democrat party is fading from majority status.

I did not say it will happen overnight or with one sweep of an election. However, the Zell Millers who are familiar with being a democrat are going to have to pass from this earth before the democrat party will erase itself.

We have to recruit the next generation. The 16 and 17 year olds who are going to become the lifelong republicans.

No the democrat party may be around for a long time, however there is nothing that should stop us from marginalizing them below the 5% matching fund status.

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

"What do you wish to conserve? For me, its my ability to be as self-sufficient as possible."

Well obviously so do I, but if you take a risk free approach to any business endeavor there is no great reward either. I don't like any of these socialist programs and to me that is what the medicare bill and CFR is. I do however believe that is the trend stands it is a smart risk to reform them later and get what we want which is tru reform and privatization. You can't do that without laying the groundwork and that is what they accomplished even though it is terribly riddled with bankrupting entitlements.

I think you have to see the strategy here and not get the cart before the horse. Poising the party to take control of the issues is what we want. Politics is like fierce buisness competition. You either set yourself up for controlling market share or you keep being marginalized by the competition.

It's risky legislation but it is a safer risk when you look at the trends than most investments. This is a conservative principle. Smart risks arn't exactly 100% gambles and pay off more than not.

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

"It's risky legislation but it is a safer risk when you look at the trends than most investments. This is a conservative principle. Smart risks arn't exactly 100% gambles and pay off more than not."

Let me clarify this statement a little more as the trends meaning picking up more seats in the senate and the congress to power.

Taking issues away from the Dims like for example the economy is bad ranting and watching them publicly fall apart and not to mention HOW WRONG THEY ARE is a really good strategy to win too. Consider the ranting they are left with. Stupid moronic blowing that even turns most people off.

Yeah Bush IS conservative and there ain't no compassion in what he has accomplished in turning the democrats into. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I find it amazing that so many conservatives here don't understand business 101.

[superloser]

Interesting.

There's a difference between how a lot of people look at candidates and issues and how I look at them.

I look at each thing individually to see if it fits my personal beliefs and what I'm willing to put up with, rather than any blank party affiliation. One of those wild-eyed independents everyone goes chasing after.

Experience has shown me that once things get into place, they don't go away. Expansions don't become contractions and loss of liberty is never redeemed.

If that is putting the cart before the horse, then there must be something I'm missing entirely. But, I'm not seeing a roadmap being put out by anyone except for self-styled analysts who are trying to read between the lines.

I want to conserve my liberty.
I want to conserve my resources.
I want Government out of my life as much as possible.

How can I do that when every politician views me as a slave, my wallet as his personal piggy-bank, and my constitution as toilet-tissue?

If this is a gamble, it is a very big one because people like me are looking at it and being very turned off by it. It may be due to lack of communication and/or roadmap, but it has the net effect of sending me to the Constitution Party.

[Warhammer]

Seems like there is a lot of 5-4 decisions that SCOTUS has made here lately. Why don't we start talking about packing the court like FDR was going to do? It had the desired effect, might do it again, eh?

[af_vet_1981]

So move to Arizona and vote against McCain. Don't try to pretend that 8 more years of Clinton is the answer. We know it is not.

[af_vet_1981]

I'm voting Keyes. I'll write him in. I will never again support the two party hydra. There isn't a bit of difference between the two except rhetoric. Enough is enough.

In other words you are not voting. You don't have the patriotism to defend the Republic against Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton. I get it.

[EdReform]

Bump

[Protagoras]

Please tell us what other electable candidate you would prefer to support.

Please define electable.

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

"If this is a gamble, it is a very big one because people like me are looking at it and being very turned off by it. It may be due to lack of communication and/or roadmap, but it has the net effect of sending me to the Constitution Party."

I sympathize with your rational and agree that entitlements don't just disappear. I am also an adamant supporter of getting gov't the he!! out of my life too especially on social issues.

I hate the stalinist democratcy we are turning into but short of a declaring a civil war what else are we gonna do? Believe me I think we should be ferrying the Dim's and their hippy supporters to antartica but it hasn't happened yet. What's the line they gotta cross before we RE-declare independance? Sheesh the state is ripping my rights away faster than George Washington gave them to me. I think the consensus is nobody wants a bloody war so fighting a cold war is an acceptable alternative for now.

Yeah it could fall apart and we remain marginalized and risk Dim reformations to make this thing an even greater disaster. But again if it fails and Dims do keep ripping our rights away what then?

[sasafras]

ping - RINOs are worse than democrats. Conservatives need to vote as a voting block - then we would have more influence. The RNC totally ignores what conservatives think in fact they side more with liberals than they do with conservatives would anybody debate this fact.

[AppauledAtAppeasementConservat]

"RINOs are worse than democrats. Conservatives need to vote as a voting block - then we would have more influence. The RNC totally ignores what conservatives think in fact they side more with liberals than they do with conservatives would anybody debate this fact."

And what great voting bloc would that be? I've been waiting for 20 years for a conservative voting bloc and have yet to see one. I am a Christian and a family values conservative and I'm still waiting for action from the masses and all I see is more people bitching and less people willing to do what it takes. I've concedded that short of a civil war I will have to accept incremental shifts to the right. You got O'Reilly bitching about christianity under attack and needing immigration reforms. If you can't pull a coup then you better learn to live with incrimentalism with in the system.

[mukraker]

Today's Republicans are farther Left than the Democrats of the 1960's. But today's Democrats are more Communist, even farther Left.

The Libertarians are looking like a pretty good alternative.

[jpsb]

I used to be a pretty good Republican, now I really don't give a damn who gets elected. If it's a nice sunny day, I might go and vote. I always vote GOP, but if it's cold and raining, I won't. Cause I really do not care any longer.

[No Blue States]

Two

Four

Six

Eight

Who do we appreciate?

Bush, thats who.

GW, alright.

Bush/Cheney 2004

Call me a Rino, Call me a Sheeple. But I think Bush is best for the People.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I am referring to the ideal that everyone has a job"

That's known as communism.

"...and unemployment is almost nonexistent"

In the past decade, anywhere from 94 to 96 percent of the US population has been employed.

What's YOUR idea of "almost nonexistent"?

[Jim Robinson]

No thanks on the tough love. The Democrats have supplied way more of that than I've ever wanted. I think I'll continue voting Republican and contine trying to get the most conservative people as possible elected.

By the way, Bustamante offered us tough love too. We told him to shove it.

[ladyinred]

What you said.

ME TOO!