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Borderline Pandering
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Monday, December 22, 2003

Posted on 12/19/2003 11:26:43 PM PST by sixmil

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To: txdoda
I really don't trust Bush. These two articles will tell you why.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1043168/posts

"The two leaders agreed in a telephone conversation Thursday to meet in the norther city of Monerrey, where the Jan.12-13 summit is to be held."

Note the date of these two articles. The Mexican article is December 5, 2003. "Vicente Fox and U.S. President George W. Bush will discuss migration, as well as border security and other topics, in a side meeting at the Summit of the Americas in the norther city of Monterrey next month."

http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=2191&tabla=miami

It is kind of sad when our immigration policy and foreign policy is announced by Mexico. It makes one think that we are nothing more than stupido gringos.

61 posted on 12/20/2003 6:46:59 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: txdoda; HiJinx; JustPiper; gubamyster; RLK; hosepipe; FITZ; Joe Hadenuf
I really don't trust Bush. These two articles will tell you why.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1043168/posts

"The two leaders agreed in a telephone conversation Thursday to meet in the norther city of Monerrey, where the Jan.12-13 summit is to be held."

Note the date of these two articles. The Mexican article is December 5, 2003. "Vicente Fox and U.S. President George W. Bush will discuss migration, as well as border security and other topics, in a side meeting at the Summit of the Americas in the norther city of Monterrey next month."

http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=2191&tabla=miami

It is kind of sad when our immigration policy and foreign policy is announced by Mexico. It makes one think that we are nothing more than stupido gringos.

Is Bush just as sneaky as Clinton?



62 posted on 12/20/2003 6:52:25 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!! (sarcasm))
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To: texastoo
Good Catch.......Fox has *never* been known to keep his mouth shut.


It is kind of sad when our immigration policy and foreign policy is announced by Mexico. It makes one think that we are nothing more than stupido gringos.>>>>>

Also the FACT that American pols now 'feel the need' to campaign/make speeches in SPANISH.

I have serious doubts about any president that would allow another head of state come to Wash DC with his list of US laws that he wants changed to benefit his illegal citizens in the USA.

Bush should have 'booted' Fox out of the White House, and barred him from re-entry to the USA, when Fox pulled this stunt. (9-01-01)
63 posted on 12/20/2003 7:03:26 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: RLK
He comes from a cultural background where directness is a sign of poor breeding, poor manners, and class deficiency.

That's the boy's number. He is an east coast blue blood, not some plain talkin' Texas yokel.

64 posted on 12/20/2003 7:13:13 PM PST by Old Fud
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To: TLI
The politicians still don't think the American people will ever do any thing about it.

65 posted on 12/20/2003 7:47:03 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: philetus
The politicians still don't think the American people will ever do any thing about it.

The political mindset should be, What are the highly motivated Americans currently doing?

I see (lots of) folks that are already giving up on the government. Thousands. And that is just me. They have resigned themselves to living without any government "help."

I suppose that is the American people already doing somthing about it.

TLI

66 posted on 12/20/2003 9:12:13 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
You do understand most of the underlying problems. However, what are those of us living right here on the border supposed to do until our political parasites pull their heads out?

Do we just cower down and accept that our rights, our lands and our lives have been sacrificed for cheap lettuce and cheap labor for everyone else?

Or should we go out and sell tacos and beer on the trails and make a dishonest buck off it like everyone else?
67 posted on 12/20/2003 9:28:57 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: texastoo
Is Bush just as sneaky as Clinton?

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Yes, but the two have slightly different aganda and motivation. The Clintons are motivated by a type of destructive hatred and provocative defiance characteristic of the '60s radical left. Bush is a type of Christian socialist trying to impose a one-world global love-in. He also seems obsessed with Hispanics. He isn't very bright.. That's for starters.

68 posted on 12/20/2003 10:04:39 PM PST by RLK
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To: txdoda
Bush should have 'booted' Fox out of the White House.

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The way it's headed, in a few more years Fox, or somebody following him, will be booting presidents out of the White House.

69 posted on 12/20/2003 10:08:05 PM PST by RLK
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To: JackelopeBreeder
You would probably make more money setting up your taco stand in a hospital parking lot.
70 posted on 12/20/2003 10:08:45 PM PST by texastoo ((go California go. Tell it like it is))
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To: txdoda
Also the FACT that American pols now "feel the need" to campaign/make speeches in SPANISH.

Bush and the pols need to get down on their knees every night and thank God that they were born in the US. Had Bush and these pols been born in Mexico, China, Cuba, or Russia just think where they would be. America is a great country because of the citizens and not the politicians. Politicians are a dime a dozen.

71 posted on 12/20/2003 10:20:15 PM PST by texastoo ((go California go. Tell it like it is))
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To: sixmil
ping~
72 posted on 12/20/2003 11:02:57 PM PST by lainde
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To: Mamzelle
Tamcredo has been able to muster a small group of like thinkers in the House. My question, which you have avoided, is what Democrat has even taken the stand that Tancredo has taken? I don't believe that you can name a single one. In fact the Democrat pandering to immigrants as voters is worse than that of the Republicans, as evidenced by the Gore-Clinton slime naturalizing even felons for their votes as many as they could.
73 posted on 12/20/2003 11:07:06 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Here in Vegas they're taking over for God's sake. Everywhere behind the scenes, they're displacing American workers at an alarming pace! THEY'RE NOT PICKING LETTUCE ANYMORE. Where do you expect American workers to find employment? Between outsourcing and importing foreign labor, Americans are stuck trying to pick up the crumbs.

Jorge Bush don't live in Las Vegas. He could care less. He's part of the political elite, and will never have to worry about watching his neighborhood go to hell, or watching all the local jobs go to those that will work for a pittance.

74 posted on 12/20/2003 11:13:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: RLK
I want Bush sent back to Texas or Kinnebunkport or wherever these people come from. The important thing is for him and the Republicans to understand WHY he's being tossed out. That's what needs to be done if there is going to be change.

Bottom line.

Many have had quite enough of this certified bull sh*t.

75 posted on 12/20/2003 11:18:24 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The first thing I would do is to be very careful. If you think Napolitano isn't flooding the area with money for informants and moles you are delusional. Anyone who says or does anything that can be construed as conspiratorial or violating civil rights will be strung up as a deterrent. These people think this is Biloxi.

The border has always been a rough place. There has been more drama played out in that vast emptiness than in a dozen cities. My grandfather was alive when the Fifth filed southward looking for Geronimo. There are always going to be things there that affront your sensibilities.

The right of the ranchers to defend themselves and their property should be a given. Acknowledging that, there are some of them that are simply aholes. People have been migrating up and down the San Pedro for thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of years. Laws that they know nothing about, written by people that they have never heard of in places that they've never seen are not going to stop that. This is humanity at its most basic.

It's not about maids or cheap lettuce. It's about a deficiency in the American character. I'm an old clod kicker and I can tell you that America's children of privilege are not going to do these jobs.

In the 1860s when the ends of the Northern Pacific were snaking toward each other, the builders found that they could not find or keep American laborers. They were saved by importing thousands of Chinese coolies to do the work. Had they not imported the labor they would have been bankrupt. The railroads would have been built eventually but not without years or decades of delay. The Golden State would be a little less golden, even today.

The Las Vegas money machines run on imported labor. The sprawling suburbs were built by boys from tiny hardscrabble villages in Mexico's interior. There are problems. That's why heaven is heaven and earth is earth. All in all we are richer for it.

76 posted on 12/20/2003 11:55:04 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: texastoo
Texas, we're not stupid, we've known Bush's stance all along but him not being straight with the American citizens, that is damn near unforgivable!
77 posted on 12/21/2003 12:29:30 AM PST by JustPiper (Following the course of least resistance makes for crooked rivers and crooked men)
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I really don't care about our skank empress, Napoleonitano.

What I do care about is that the Border Patrol caught over 175,000 illegal aliens in this tiny county in FY 2003. There are only 120,000 legitimate residents here. I care even more about the fact that the agents claim they're lucky to catch 1 in 5 and they do not like admitting to failures. That means another 700,000 made it through here safely. Geronimo and gang were never that numerous.

Maybe Paco and Hector become solid citizens when they make it north. I could give a rat's hiney. When they pass through here, they are a menace.

Fence in the way? Cut it or smash it down. Need water? Bust the valves off somebody's pump system. Hungry? kill a steer for ten pounds of meat or break into a house. Dog barking? Kill it. Running late for the pick up point? Steal a car or carjack somebody. Bump into a hiker or birdwatcher? Rob 'em, tie 'em up, and stuff 'em in an arroyo. The more gutsy ones show up banging on your door at all hours demanding food, water, rides, and use of your telephone. But God forbid that any of us try to protect our property.

Are Americans supposed to live with this?
78 posted on 12/21/2003 1:06:45 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: sixmil
"Well, first of all," answered Bush, "I have constantly said that we need to have an immigration policy that helps match any willing employer with any willing employee.

In other words, the American worker is a liabilty who must be cast aside. Incredible.

This also leads me to another question: do conservatives now believe that high wages are a threat to the economy?

Absolutely. But don't tell anyone.

79 posted on 12/21/2003 1:28:33 AM PST by Penner
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To: sixmil
"Let me also clarify something: This administration is firmly against blanket amnesty."

"However, I a for 'serape amnestia'."

80 posted on 12/21/2003 1:33:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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