Posted on 03/24/2004 1:10:39 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
According to Ambassador Garza -- Since the President announced this plan, it seems that no one is completely happy... The plan does not guarantee an easy path to permanent residence or citizenship for those people who have broken U.S. laws, nor does it call for massive deportation of those same people.
It would break my heart to have such a thankless job, but SOMEONE will have to do it...
I'll be glad to help you with your task.
Interesting, that's how the INS has done it for decades.
Apprehensions have always been the way of judging the number of illegals crossing the border, at least in my lifetime.
If you work for the INS in Arizona, you only need ask yourself what is the scuttlebutt in the office and in your community regarding anecdotal evidence of immigration rates?
I do, and we all use the traditional method of apprehensions.
We know how many are caught and we know approximately how many are not.
When to BP responds to a call or a sensor hit, then take the number of illegals apprehended and then they compare the apprehension to the number of tracks on the ground and the number of hits on the sensor. From that information, they can get a very accurate number of aliens that got away.
The INS minimizes that number publicly, but if you take to the BP agents on the street, he’ll tell you the truth.
The BP apprehends approximately 10 to 20 percent of the illegals that cross. So, if you have 100 apprehensions, you pretty much guess that 1000+ got through. Now, that does not mean 1000+ illegals have made the US there new home, because some still head back home to Mexico or were ever they come from, but we know 1000+ made it through.
Like I stated before, the reason for the major increase in the permanent illegal alien population, is because they are not returning to their home countries, not because more are coming over, and that is because of the crack down on the border.
The current policy is causing the illegal alien population to take up roots here as opposed to moving back and forth across the border.
One must also understand that this applies to the Mexican illegals and not the illegals from other countries. The illegals from other countries are far more likely to stay here and never leave, due to the distance between their home and the United States.
I’m sorry, but counting the number of folks that speak Spanish in your neighborhood, is not a very good way to gage the increase or decrease of illegal aliens.
Everyone knows the numbers are increasing, but that does not correlate with an increasing number of border crossers. It correlates with an increased number of illegal aliens not returning home, like they did in the past.
This is another funny story that's not true.
If Bush did cave to Fox, then it happened about 6 months before this meeting, as that was when it was announced internally, that Mexican laser visa holders would not be run in US-VIST when it was implemented along the US/Mexico border.
Yes, we knew almost 6 months ago, this was the plan.
And while I don't like it, I know exactly why they are doing it. It would slow your average 30-minute wait at the border to about a 10+ hour wait.
Not only would the Mexicans raise hell (which I could care less about), but American citizens who had to wait 10 hours to cross, would raise hell also.
Everybody in government, when finally pressed, expresses many variations of a final 'monetary' excuse, "It will cost too much", "We can't hire that many border agents", "A wall is too expensive".
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
10 Million Illegals.
Deputize US Citizens.
$10 Bounty per Illegal.
Problem solved for $100 Million.
Done.
That's exactly why I would never leave California. I don't care what state your in, the illegals are pouring in.
Of course, we knew this was going nationwide over 10 years ago.
It's damn sad. What government on earth would want their country filled with unskilled, uneducated, third world, illegal aliens, as they just sit back and watch it go southbound.
Obviously not. An increasingly larger percentage of illegal aliens gain entry through birth on US soil. These aliens, while subject to deportation, are afforded certain protections by a recent Supreme Court decision (1982) and don't show up in the statistics because we've eliminated the neighborhood sweeps.
But ... illegal immigration (by birth and trespass) has been increasing steadily since 911.
An interesting and informative observation about the vanity title of the article but beside the point of the cite.
The point of the cite was an example of Bush's acting to degrade existing immigration policy. The policy was individual inspection which Bush eliminated, under defined circumstances, for the reasons you cited. In place of a policy of vigilant inspection, Bush instituted a policy of mutual trust. Even Reagan admonished that trust without verification was worthless.
Sorry, but Plyler v. Doe had to do with public education rights for illegal aliens, not birth rights.
The current birthrights are written into US Constitution, and have yet to be argued in the Supreme Court. Although it will be soon.
So, no illegal aliens gain entry by birth.
Incorrect, no inspection has been eliminated.
They will be inspected exactly as they have been in the past. Nothing was eliminated. You can't eliminate a program that has not even go into effect nor was even to apply to this group of visitors.
What happened, was that stricter inspections were not to be added to this group of visitors.
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While the SCOTUS has not directly addressed the issue in an adverse finding it has offered it's opinion. The children of illegal aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the state in which they reside and therefore not protected by the provisions of the amendment. The myth that these children are automatically granted citizenship is rather recent folklore. The 1982 decision avoided directly addressing the issue of the rights of this suspect class and instead addressed the ability of states to protect themselves from illegal immigration.
Adding to the confusion, the 14th Amendment was never constitutionally adopted. It was ratified by less the 3/4 of the states, even excluding the antebellum states, and was certified by an individual who lacked the constitutional authority. Probably one of the worst examples of the tyranny of the majority: a Republican majority.
The irony is that this tyranny may well be the undoing of the republic given the increasing politcal power of this suspect class.
LOL, not surprising at all. Anyway, the vast majority would not like it.
How the heck are you? PsyOp and I meet in Yuma and did a little shooting last week. Had a great time.
It would demonstrate that there are not enough rail cars in the u.S. to get out JUST the ones arrested in a single sweep. There would be a significant percentage that will realize that hanging around in a country that really does NOT welcome those that thumb their noses at the immigration law and decide that moving back to mexico WITH the wealth they have accumulated here is far preferable to being dumped on the south side of a border bridge with nothing.
and waste millions of dollars.
Well Gollllllee Bum. It is just gonna break all those gubberment workers and bureaucrats LIL OL HEARTS to wast millions of dollars! That has just NEVER happened before!
Get a grip mister. First, it ain't And you would be one of only a few thousand that fell that way. it is more like 75% of the entire nation wants them out, now. You don't get those kinds of percentages by bringing up a Republican or Democrat issue. You get THOSE kinds of percentages by bringing up an issue that folks will go to war over. Oh, wait, we did that once twice here already and KICKED A$$. The rest of the country is being affected by this and they do not like it. Like I said as soon as one political party switches on to this and beats the drums loud enough for the American people to hear them . . .
T S W H T F
When it gets to that point, there will be many that will bitch and moan "why did the fed's not enforce the law?" It will be far to late by then. Uncontrolled breeding combined with unabated aggressive invasion of a incompatible culture WILL create an openly unwelcome element in an extremely hostile environment. And that hostile environment just happens to be armed to the teeth.
Correct, but very few would agree to door to door sweeps.
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