Who spit on who? (ZOT!!! Who meowed at whom?)

MetroBlab ^ | 4/22/04 | Jesse Fox Mayshark

[jdege]

even as the national consensus has, over time, moved to a sort of grudging acknowledgement that the American involvement in Vietnam was basically wrong-headed from the start,

Odd. My sense of the national consensus is exactly the opposite.

There are a lot of people who opposed the war who were horrified by the consequences of the Communist victory. Who become committed opponents to all of the various flavors of collectivist socialism precisely because of what they saw after the "liberation" of South Vietnam.

[beckett]

A revisionist history, written in the hope that the naive will buy it, and an obvious attempt to put halos on antiwar types. The trouble is, the central claim is a lie. There were many instances of soldiers being harassed and spat upon by antiwar demonstrators long before 1980, and those events were documented in national magazines like Time and Newsweek at the time. So if this bogus story ever gets wide attention, it will be shot down as easily as shooting fish in a barrel.

[glock rocks]

[muawiyah]

And your brother is still a hero.

This writer says there are no contemporary records concerning the phenomenon you report ~ that's because the treasonous news media refused to publish them, or show them on TV.

My own experience was a bit less dramatic than that. Bunch of us had just DEROSed from USAEUR at Fort Dix NJ. We decided to go to PHL to catch a flight "back home".

Guess what? No flights for us, but folks on "student standby" could get on almost any plane they wished at the very same gates.

Luckly one of us had an American Express card ~ and that got us a rental car.

I'm not quite sure how you could have shown GIs getting turned down for flights home at PHL while students (unwashed hippies) were getting on, but that's what was going on in February 1969. Guys coming home from Nam had it worse on the West Coast.

[ArrogantBustard]

I know we've a boatload of Viet Nam veterans (and veterans who were 'in' at that time but didn't go to Viet Nam) on this forum. Questions for y'all:

1) Did this (spitting) ever happen to you personally?

2) Did you ever, personally, witness it happen to someone else?

3) How about the 'baby killer' epithet (or similar)? Was it ever applied to you, in person, to your face? 4) Did you ever, personally, witness another soldier being so insulted?

5) If "yes" to any of the above (or similar that I haven't specifically asked about), when, where, who, how often?

I'm interested in how widespread the phenomenon was. I'd welcome replies from friends and family as well ... but again I'm only interested in first hand accounts.

[MagnusMaximus1]

Rambo Alert!
;-)

[BlueLancer]

VARMINT CONG ALERT!!!
Spittica Delirious Trollium subspecies

[Pan_Yans Wife]

meow

[Righty1]

It looks like the left may be hoist on their own pitard as papers like the slimes promoted this impression to discourage service in the Nam.

[ladyjane]

Well at least Robert MacNamara's son didn't have to be subjected to the war and mistreatment upon his return. Daddy made sure other people sent their sons.

[cyborg]

I WANT TO SPIT ON VETERAN HATING TROLLS!!!!!!

[GrandEagle]

My sense of the national consensus is exactly the opposite.
Mine too...

[dighton]

Trollius crispius maximus.

[tongue-tied]

Thanks, I was here for this one.

LOSER

[cyborg]

Kiss a Vietnam veteran SLIME a troll.. I have a feeling this troll never got kissed and the only body fuild ever encountered is his/her own.

[68skylark]

I did witness people calling [my brother] a "baby killer" and "war criminal"

The guy who did it is now running for president.

[BlueLancer]

1) 1973/Baltimore Airport, enroute to home on leave from the US Naval Academy after Youngster Cruise. Also verbally harassed, jostled, and shoved by between five to eight hippies, male and female ... and really smelly. Incident lasted about 15 minutes until I slugged the loudest one and airport security arrived to break them up (literally).

2) No.

3) Yes, same incident as in (1)

4) No.

[Arrowhead1952]

Thanks Pan_Yans Wife. First ZOT thread I've been on for some time.

[DuncanWaring]

... the people who fought longest and loudest to bring the killing to an end...

...and thus condemn millions to enslavement and murder.

[tx_eggman]

He's not on Pluto, it's gotta be Uranus