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Who spit on who? (ZOT!!! Who meowed at whom?)
MetroBlab ^ | 4/22/04 | Jesse Fox Mayshark

Posted on 04/22/2004 9:36:41 AM PDT by Whappen

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To: BlueLancer
In Bawl'mer??? Yikes.

Good show slugging the smelly little freak.

41 posted on 04/22/2004 10:08:07 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Whappen

Hartford Courant

Vietnam Veterans Pledge Iraq Vets Won't Be Scorned
 
By Stephanie Reitz

March 30, 2003

WILLIMANTIC -- Time hasn't blunted the memories. The years have made them a little more bearable, perhaps, but sharp edges still lie just below the surface.

On the grassy lawn outside VFW Post 1724 in Willimantic on Saturday, local Vietnam veterans tried to put aside recollections of their own painful homecomings as they rallied in support of American troops fighting in Iraq.

To themselves and each other, they made a covenant: The men and women returning from the Middle East will not experience the jeers and humiliation they endured.

Gratitude, not contempt, will greet today's troops. They'll be proud to wear their uniforms, salute their flag and tell their children how they voluntarily suspended their daily lives to answer their country's call.

This, the Vietnam veterans vowed.

"There was no welcome home at all after Vietnam. People were protesting against us as soon as our ship arrived in Oakland, Calif.," recalled Don Aubert of Chaplin, a 21-year Navy veteran who served in Korea and Vietnam.

Bob Cornell, delayed at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago on his way home from service in Vietnam, bought civilian clothes in the terminal.

Hours of verbal abuse from other passengers, some of whom spit on his uniform, were just too much to bear.

"We must not let that happen again to these young men and women in uniform. You can hate the war, but you have to love the warrior," said Cornell, now the quarrymaster for the Willimantic VFW post.


Charles Kelly of Mansfield was "one of the older guys" at 25, he said, when he received a draft notice in 1967. He knew his $105-a-month Army salary would never be enough to live on and meet the $75 monthly payment on his gorgeous 1966 Mustang.

By volunteering for a three-year tour of duty, he received extra time before his deployment to pay off his prized red convertible and sell it, rather than have it repossessed.

On Jan. 5, 1968, he went to Vietnam. When his three years were up, he enlisted for another six months. Why? Because of a sense of obligation, of patriotism?

"No," he said softly, struggling to hold back tears, "a sense of not wanting to leave anyone behind."

So today, he goes to the pro-troop rallies. He worries about the troops in Iraq and, like other Vietnam-era veterans, he sends them a message of gratitude and respect.

"Soldiers are put in situations they didn't create, and given orders to carry out," Kelly said. "If you don't have the citizens behind you, it makes what you did seem wrong or unacceptable, which is not the case."

Rob Simmons, who spent 19 months in Vietnam, took his $70 clothing allowance upon his discharge in 1968 and bought civilian duds, heeding warnings from friends about the national mood.

Today, Simmons is eastern Connecticut's representative in the U.S. House, and a member of the Armed Services and Veterans Affairs committees. Like many other Vietnam veterans, he is determined to protect today's veterans from experiencing the scorn that was heaped on those of his era.

"We don't send mercenaries to defend our nation, and we do not terrorize our own people into fighting," Simmons said. "We give the very best we have to our military ... our sons and daughters."

42 posted on 04/22/2004 10:08:20 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: beckett
So if this bogus story ever gets wide attention, it will be shot down as easily as shooting fish in a barrel.

In 20 years (or today, take your pick) there will be a generation who believe Kerry was wounded in Vietnam.

43 posted on 04/22/2004 10:12:18 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: BlueLancer; 4mycountry; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; Constitution Day; mhking; Fierce Allegiance; ..
Kitten chow!
44 posted on 04/22/2004 10:13:39 AM PDT by TheBigB (FINALLY got my FReepin' profile page done! :) Whatcha think?)
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To: Whappen
the national consensus has, over time, moved to a sort of grudging acknowledgement that the American involvement in Vietnam was basically wrong-headed from the start,

As long as people wish to believe that the communists had no desire on instilling their system of governance on other countries, the above statement has some validity. But for those who are willing to extricate their heads from the dark regions that it may now occupy, they may be able to realize that the defeat of Soviet communism can be directly attributed to four things:

1) The willingness of the USA to make them pay and to pay big, to gain ground (Vietnam)
2) The willingness of the USA to make them pay and to pay big, to gain ground (Afghanistan).
3)The willingness of the USA to make them pay and to pay big, to gain ground (Reaganism).
4) The simple fact that Socialism is diametrically opposed to the normal rational thought process of 90% of human beings, that being we all want to be rewarded, even if modestly so, for our hard work and efforts.

45 posted on 04/22/2004 10:14:37 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ('The weakest link in American security is the political link' - Thomas Sowell)
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To: cyborg
Ewwww. But you're probably right.
46 posted on 04/22/2004 10:14:56 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Cats: The Other White Meat.)
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To: Whappen
Interesting. I've never seen anyone spit on anyone in the context of an anti-war rally, at least not in the media accounts thereof.

But organizers seem to hand out flags for burning to every s--t heel in attendance.

So this fool can stop trying to say that hippies are really just after what's best for the country through their dissension, because they aren't.
47 posted on 04/22/2004 10:19:20 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: Whappen
Here is a recent spitting incident that I am sure you will claim to be false...

Hillary Delegates Spit on Police Honor Guard

48 posted on 04/22/2004 10:23:05 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Gefreiter
I've never seen anyone spit on anyone in the context of an anti-war rally, at least not in the media accounts thereof.

You also never seen Anti 2nd Amendment protestors threatened or harm wished upon them. But NC Gov. candidate Barbara Howe was confronted by one of the anti 2nd amendment protestors. The protestor said to Ms. Howe "I hope you are shot with one of those!" As she pointed to a picture of a gun on Barbara's shirt.

49 posted on 04/22/2004 10:34:55 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Whappen
I SAW those filthy animals spitting on our returning veterans. I SAW them CONTINUE to spit on veterans long after they returned...as long as they were legless men in wheelchairs. I HEARD them scream "baby killer" into the face of one such disabled vet.

Welcome to the door of FR, troll. May it hit you hard enough to knock you a mile.

50 posted on 04/22/2004 10:35:13 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Whappen
We don't have to go back to the Vietnam era. Just look at what happened at the beginning of the Iraq war. People in San Francisco spit or threatened our people in uniform just dropping into their local pharmacy.

Just face it. Anti-war people are hostile, viscious, cruel, disgusting, stupid, and dirty.

If only we could turn their hostility towards our troops into hostility for those who hate America...our enemies.

But wait..these people are enemies of America.


51 posted on 04/22/2004 10:35:27 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
Another idiot who joined today and thinks we can't wait to read his puerile rantings?
Where to these people come from?
52 posted on 04/22/2004 10:36:58 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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To: Whappen
I do know counter culture liberals spit on Boy Scouts. I saw it with my own eyes.
53 posted on 04/22/2004 10:37:38 AM PDT by kylaka (The Clintons are the democRATS crack cocaine. They know they're bad for them, they just can't stop.)
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To: So Cal Rocket
That is worth its own thread!
54 posted on 04/22/2004 10:41:20 AM PDT by CSM (Vote Kerry! Boil the Frog! Speed up the 2nd Revolution! (Be like Spain! At least they're honest))
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To: Whappen

ZOT!!!

55 posted on 04/22/2004 10:42:42 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: glock rocks
Actually I think he's two planets to the left.
56 posted on 04/22/2004 10:44:14 AM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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To: Phantom Lord
Thanks for finding that link.

That was my first thought when I opened this thread.

TC
57 posted on 04/22/2004 10:48:52 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Old Sarge; TheBigB
Howdy, y'all. Got some good troll smokin' going on! :)
58 posted on 04/22/2004 10:50:07 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: Whappen
Uh...I was spat upon when I came home, but it wasn't a throaty loogie sort of thing, but rather was flecks of spittle from the rabid mouth of a young girl with unshaved armpits who, along with a couple of her friends in a car, slowed down while I was standing at the curb waiting for a taxi. She was leaning out of the passenger window, her arms in the air, and her hands and fingers folded into the famous "middle finger salute," a bra-less, unwashed banshee in a sleeveless t-shirt, screeching some nonsense about blood, and that I was a "motherf***er." Then, they all laughed and drove away in a screech of tires.
59 posted on 04/22/2004 10:53:03 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Whappen
Is this person a troll? Does jreimer need to be pinged?
60 posted on 04/22/2004 10:54:32 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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