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Saddam's WMD Have Been Found
Insight Magazine ^
| 26 April 2004
| Kenneth R. Timmerman
Posted on 04/26/2004 7:32:46 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
BTTT
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posted on
04/27/2004 2:24:35 AM PDT
by
Dajjal
To: Dr. Frank fan
Great summary. Unfortunately, what is going to stick in my warped little mind the longest is your creative acronyms:-)
142
posted on
04/27/2004 6:50:51 AM PDT
by
Turbo Pig
(...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
To: Lando Lincoln
In other news, all of the major new media and countless anti-war protestors have rescinded their claims that "Bush lied"..........NOT.
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posted on
04/27/2004 12:43:02 PM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: Lando Lincoln
A FReeper Keeper - Bookmarked!
144
posted on
04/27/2004 1:00:10 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(If you look like your passport picture, you probably need the trip.)
To: RetiredArmy
"YOU WAIT AND SEE. IF SOMETHING BIG IS DISCOVERED FROM NOW TO THE ELECTION, THAT IS HOW THEY WILL SPIN IT!"They don't have to spin it.
They just don't report it.
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posted on
04/27/2004 1:12:42 PM PDT
by
auggy
(http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
To: Lando Lincoln
BTTT
To: Dr. Frank fan
"All that crap really could have been "pesticides". Are you REALLY saying you buy that?"
Heck no... But, until a test shows it is WMD, we don't really have proof. Obviously they don't put pesticides into shells, but still....for the world to say "Ah ha, they had WMD!" we need to find more than this. This article makes it sound like we found it all. We found a start.
You are right about my when we invaded comment though....he may have moved stuff to Syria just prior to the war.
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posted on
04/27/2004 5:21:39 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
To: rwfromkansas
["pesticides"] Heck no... But, until a test shows it is WMD, we don't really have proof. There IS NO "test for WMD". I think this is just part of the fallacious thinking that is surrounding the debate. They tested these materials and in their chemical makeup they "resemble" pesticides. That's the fact on the table. There are no more further "tests" to do because we know what they are: pesticide-like materials.
There are only two explanations then:
1. They really are pesticides.
2. They are not pesticides, but something else.
You and I both, reasonably enough, reject 1. because the notion that Saddam would have stockpiled so many pesticides in camoflaged bunkers near military outposts is just laughable.
So we are left with 2. then. They are materials based on pesticide-like precursors, stored in drums, near military sites, camoflaged and placed in underground bunkers, but not actually pesticides nor is it at all plausible that they were intended for use as pesticides. But presumably when prepared and delivered by appropriate means, they could kill large numbers of humans. (This is true even of actual pesticides of course.)
That's what "WMD" MEANS! I don't even know what else people think a "WMD" would be.
At the bare minimum these were finds of "WMD" precursors. In other words, stuff that could be mixed with other stuff, or prepared appropriately, to be deliverable "WMDs", but not actually deliverable "WMDs". But to make that distinction is asinine. It's like saying that if you find an empty gun, and a bullet, that's not a weapon. Only if the bullet is in the gun, have you found a weapon. The bullet by itself is just a "precursor" and the gun by itself is just a "precursor". In a sense this is a true way to look at things, but still quite warped.
So we found "precursors" to WMD. We found material which could be used and was meant to be used, if/when the time arose, for WMD. That's good enough for me. Why wouldn't it be good enough for anyone? Who ever raised the bar to this absurd height that, unless we find a "loaded WMD gun", we haven't found ANYTHING? The charge against Saddam was NEVER "he has a loaded WMD gun", it was that he had, and was continuing to make, banned materials. Guilty as charged.
....for the world to say "Ah ha, they had WMD!" we need to find more than this
You are probably right but that's because "the world" has raised the bar to such an absurd height. Which was one of the main points of this article, in fact.
This article makes it sound like we found it all.
Not "it all". From the article: "In virtually every case - chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missiles - the United States has found the weapons and the programs...". The article is explicit about the fact that there are still things unaccounted for.
Best,
To: Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
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posted on
04/28/2004 8:46:17 AM PDT
by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
To: Lando Lincoln
Great post! Bttt.
151
posted on
04/28/2004 8:50:28 AM PDT
by
SquirrelKing
("...US Marines have done more for world peace than all the Ben & Jerry's ever made." - PJ O'Rourke)
To: L.N. Smithee
I have been through promises of... Sadley, I agree with you. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
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posted on
04/28/2004 8:54:28 AM PDT
by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
To: Lando Lincoln
IT is in MHO...
What hasn't been located will be used in the VERY NEAR FUTURE...Saudi Arabia will be hit as well as our troops...there are MORE reasons for the smaller countries pulling their troops...they KNOW a chemical attack is imminent...and they aren't prepared to deal with one.
WMD will raise their ugly head BEFORE May31/June 1, 2004 in the Middle East...
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posted on
04/28/2004 8:58:06 AM PDT
by
antivenom
("Never argue with an idiot, he'll bring you down to his level - then beat you with experience.")
To: clamboat
hmmm
154
posted on
04/28/2004 9:08:54 AM PDT
by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
To: rwfromkansas
BIG WHOOP! So they had something with which they could restart their program with. It doesn't prove they had produced WMD's and had them right before or during our invasion. It shows they had the capability and the intent. That's more than enough to be deeply concerned about, in the hands of Saddam, Uday and Qusay.
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posted on
05/07/2004 1:26:11 PM PDT
by
alnick
(Mrs. Heinz-Kerry's husband wants teh-rayz-ah your taxes.)
To: alnick
I will grant you that.
If they had the capability, that is pretty darn serious. I should not have meant it sound like nothing.
It is just that unfortunately, that isn't going to be what convinces the media to cover the story since it is not "clear" enough evidence.
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posted on
05/07/2004 1:27:46 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
To: Lando Lincoln
To: alnick; rwfromkansas
I may be a dufus pollyanna, but I really think that the Bush administration is on the verge of another shock and awe performance FOR the American people.
Ask yourself why Dr. Germ & Mrs. Anthrax were just released. Something BIG is brewing and it isn't a sizzling idiot suicide bomber.
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posted on
12/19/2005 6:28:53 PM PST
by
right wing
(I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
To: Lando Lincoln
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posted on
07/06/2014 2:55:11 PM PDT
by
Thickman
(Obama - President Ubiquitous (a.k.a. P.U.))
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