Buchanan Asks, "What Do We Offer the World?"

WND.com ^ | 05-19-04 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

[oblomov]

The late-60s Jane Fonda movie, "Barbarella" was a combined a parody of sci-fi movies with a "free love" element.

The main character, Barbarella, had a weapon called the Orgasmatron:

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue126/classic.html

[steve-b]

BS. Pat Buchanan has openly declared his hatred for America -- why do you support him (assuming that you don't hate America yourself)?

[Theodore R.]

Pat's love child

First, I've heard of this. Is it common knowledge among the Beltway people?

[Theodore R.]

How old is this daughter of Pat now?

[rdb3]

Plus I really fail to understand why anyone continues to listen to these sermons on the "immoral modern west" when they come from a guy who was 4-F for military service due to complications from venereal disease, and who has a child out of wedlock (to their great credit, both the GHWB campaign in '92 and the Dole campaign in '96 were well aware of Pat's love child, but chose not to make an issue of it, since she's a kid and deserves some privacy, even if her loudmouth father doesn't).

Get out of town! Are you for real?

[Thorin]

Uh, no. It is standard Burkean conservatism. As Burke said, in order to love our country, our country must be lovely. Buchanan's column reminds us that all is not lovely here--unless you think murdering 1,000,000 plus unborn babies a year is lovely.

Buchanan is not saying that America should not be defended. He is saying that we should not go to war to impose such defective "values" as abortion on demand on the rest of the world.

[general_re]

In the Middle East you have choice between authoritarian secular government or grass-root Islamic one.

Why? Because you say so? What sort of "conservatism" is it that seeks to perpetuate evil simply because its always been with us?

[duckln]

Pat has it exactly right. Krauthammer, Kristol, Safire, et al, save a few, have taken on Mel Gibson with a vengence.
They have been wrong on 'culture' for years.

[ex-snook]

The more right Buchanan is the more shrill his opponents become and berate him because they cannot refute his truth.

This is another great Buchanan article. He speaks truth to power. Pat is right about this as he is right about illegal immigration, NAFTA deals bring job loss, abortion, homosexual practices, and foreign entanglements bring war to our shores. Pat speaks for a conservative America first in defense, first in economy and first in morality.

[Russ7]

Some moral values are consistent among cultures, such as not committing murder, theft, assault, or fraud. They can better be described as "ethics". "Moral" considerations involving eating, drinking, smoking, entertainment, attire, consensual sex, etc. vary from culture to culture. In a free nation, it's best for government to butt out of those.

I strongly disagree. Morality crosses cultural lines as well as national borders. There is Good and Evil and they have nothing to do with culture, customs, race, gender or anything like that. There are good and moral Muslims and immoral and bad Christians & Jews. We're in a war, not so much between cultures/countries as it is between Good and Evil, a spiritual war that starts off seeming like a secular war between competing cultures. America is fundamentally Good but needs to work hard on becoming more moral in order to win this war. This could be our longest and last war.

[11th Earl of Mar]

Could you point me to an article where Pat condemns Arab anti-semitism so we could evaluate Buchanan's acumen?

You were the one who brought up the subject. So let's discuss it.

[duckbutt]

cheesy poofs.....

[rdb3]

Could you point me to an article where Pat condemns Arab anti-semitism so we could evaluate Buchanan's acumen?

Great question. Please ping me if you get an answer. I won't be holding my breath, however.

[hchutch]

I have a problem with folks who seek to impose moral values at the point of a gun.

I don't care if they're Christian, like Buchanan, or Islamic, like the Saudis.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Buchanan Asks, "What Do We Offer the World?"

How 'bout a pants down spanking?

If it's Wednesday, it must be 'attack the neo-con Jews day' for Pat Buchananananan.

[Junior_G]

I have a problem with folks who seek to impose moral values at the point of a gun. I don't care if they're Christian, like Buchanan, or Islamic, like the Saudis.

Where do you get the idea that Buchanan wants to force Christian morals on people at gunpoint? Don't listen to the hysterics.

[ex-snook]

"You were the one who brought up the subject. So let's discuss it."

You need a lesson in reading comprehension. Look at who brought up the subject. "And has Pat ever written an article condemning the anti-Semitism of the Arab world? Or was Buchanan too busy researching topics like whether diesel fumes could have really killed as many Jews as the Holocaust survivors claimed? 125 posted on 05/19/2004 9:52:18 AM EDT by 11th Earl of Mar "

The more right Buchanan is the more shrill his opponents become and berate him because they cannot refute his truth. This is another great Buchanan article. He speaks truth to power. Pat is right about this as he is right about illegal immigration, NAFTA deals bring job loss, abortion, homosexual practices, and foreign entanglements bring war to our shores. Pat speaks for a conservative America first in defense, first in economy and first in morality.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Unfortunately, Pagan America of 2004 has far less to offer the world in cultural fare than did Christian America of 1954."

Yes, specially less choices in public facilities.

[sakic]

I had to re-think our ability to nation-build when I saw Hollywood's immorality rise up in that prison.

Blaming Hollywood for their behavior?

What happened to personal responsibility?

Very weak.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Exactly what are the "values" the West has to teach the Islamic world?"

That the behavior exhibited by the few people who engaged in the acts we've seen portrayed ad nauseum in Abu Ghraib should be punished, and not rewarded.

That was easy Pat.