Posted on 06/27/2004 4:52:11 AM PDT by neutrino
LOL! Touche!
Some job - if she can earn that much money, she doesn't *need* to go to college. Tuitions are out of sight. Our in-state university tuition here at University of Missouri has *doubled* in the past 8 years.
In reality, a lot of kids are going to be living at home for at least two years and going to community college. That isn't bad in and of itself: it saves phenomenal amounts of money *and* the kids aren't exposed to the stupidity and immorality of dorm life. But not many people can earn enough to support themselves *and* pay for four years of college plus room-and-board. Many middle-class parents (even ones still employed) have given up entirely on a "typical" college education for their kids.
I agree with you. If a young person isn't interested in college; isn't motivated; doesn't know what they want to study, then they shouldn't go. If their parents are willing, the parents would do far better by their kids to put the money "in trust" for the kids for a down payment on a house, or seed money for their own business.
"Schooled" would be a better word. Schooling and education aren't synonymous.
Hope that's the case for you as a federal worker. But don't put it past someone to put the major screws to you because you're an "older" worker and they want your job. There's ways they can do it, to force you out when you're not ready to go. Cut jobs, shift job titles, dump double work load on you and suddenly you're not fulfilling your job....I don't trust anyone in the working world anymore. (By the way, I'm also a retired federal worker, as of Oct. 2003.)
I prefer to think of my style as cryptic.
Yes, it only took 5 posts before some person who knows nothing about the industry repeats the Rush Limbaugh quote of "buggy whips" - which is not an equivocal. Yes, IT engineering is so out of date, according to these people. The ignorance is deep. Of course, the 2 cents added to the company stock in the last 18 months is all worth it of course.
What really frosts me about this stupid cliché is that there really never were any factories that specialized in "buggy whips." There were "leather goods" manufacturers which made a wide variety of products, including buggy whips. The invention of the motorcar didn't put any "buggy whip" manufacturers out of business--they continued to produce leather goods which were still in demand.
175 - "As for "devaluing the currency," since the dollar floats, anything can happen, but whatever happens to me is also going to happen to EVERYONE WHO HOLDS DOLLARS. Like, duh! "
Well, duh, you are finally beginning to figure it out, where free-traitor and political treachery is leading. DUH!!
How else do you think your pension is going to be paid?
You (federal spendthrift) spent the money already, for all of us.
Sorry that happened to you, but, again -- it won't happen to me. My circumstances are quite different.
The output of these outsourced jobs is still VERY MUCH a part of the economy.
Bingo.
That should be carved in stone and placed in a monument in DC, alongside the Vietnam and WWII monuments. A monument to the economic war LOST to foreign employment.
I got a big laugh out of this, Don Joe, as it happens I am a stonecutter. I cut words into granite all day!!!!
175 - "As for "devaluing the currency," since the dollar floats, anything can happen, but whatever happens to me is also going to happen to EVERYONE WHO HOLDS DOLLARS. Like, duh!"
Smug one, You might remember a little history, about what happened to those German pensioneres after WWI, or more rescently what happened to the pensioners in Argentina and Russia.
It doesn't take much googling ("third way" globalization) to find "progressive" groups like New Democrats On Line, Progressive Policy Institute, etc. who see "free" trade and globalization as the way of "achieving widely shared economic prosperity." Progressives are of course worried about the "unchecked power of multinational companies and about who is running the global economy."
A true Third Way approach to globalization combines support for global integration with "rules and tools." Progressives are running the global economy.
Besides President Bush another hero of the "free" traders, President Bill Clinton, in Davos, Switzerland, said: "...open markets and rules-based trade are the best engine we know of to lift living standards, reduce environmental destruction and build shared prosperity."
President Clinton went on to provide the "free" traders their major arguments. To wit, "We benefit from [imports]. Imports stretch family budgets; they promote the well-being of working families, by making their dollars go further; they bring new technology and ideas; they, by opening markets, dampen inflation and spur innovation."
The quotes are from "A Third Way on Trade and Globalization," by Jenny Bates and Greg Principato and is on http://www.ppionline.org/
The WTO system, etc. = President Clinton's, et al. Third Way "rules-based trade."
So like Clinton transferring military technology everywhere "over there" the "free" traders loot America's technology to transfer to "developing nations" for cash thus sharing economic prosperity.
It's (not so) funny that we "protectionists" are denounced for wanting "socialist government interference" here in the U.S. by the brilliant "free" traders while they (blindly?) help establish socialism worldwide! Idiots.
The Third Way means a Marxist revolution from the top down and combines Lenin's New Economic Plan (NEP) with the revolution by inviting the capitalists to join their fun. Useful idiots!
Like the Soviet Union of the 1920s the "progressive" ideologues will one day come to fear the Nepmen, seize their property, execute them, and declare the World to be a Workers' Paradise.
IMO.
That is another good point. The thing that I don't like about that ignorant and inept cliche ("buggy whips") is that it implies that technological advances like the car put those people who did not want to change out of business. How is that applicable to Cold Fusion/.net programming? Exactly how is is radiology "old hat"? Where can one show me that physics and engineering are going out of style? Many of these jobs being sent to India and elsewhere are going there just because some idiots from the GM management school of thinking (Hewlett Patel, Sprint, etc.) think they can increase the company stock by a buck by not paying health care.
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