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Kristol: The Last Refuge
The Weekly Standard ^ | August 9, 2004 | William Kristol

Posted on 07/30/2004 6:38:47 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: ambrose

The liberal media was busy looking under every rock to find that ellusive kerry bounce.


21 posted on 07/30/2004 7:25:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: RWR8189
This is a good piece by Kristol, and I think his advise to ignore kerry is absolutley right on. President Bush should criss cross the Country speaking off-the-cuff. He does much better when he's unscripted and truly himself. However, the following is very worrisome indeed.

On the one hand, a plurality of the American people now say they oppose having gone to war to remove Saddam.

22 posted on 07/30/2004 7:26:46 PM PDT by AlbionGirl
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To: gilliam
Not sure how much he will need to do this. I have a feeling the Vietnam Vets will do it for him.

As a Viet Nam vet (3 tours), I have, for the most part, ignored John Kerry. Another Senator taking a shot at the presidency generally draws a yawn, but last night I got angry--angry enough to go all out to make sure this Viet Cong apologist never sits in the oval office. For the record, supporting a true patriot and leader (George W.) and pointing out John Kerry's "real" service record is not going negative. It's an honor and a privilege. One I take very seriously. I do so for the sake of my family, my friends and my two grandsons.

23 posted on 07/30/2004 7:27:03 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("We will always remember. We will always be proud." Ronald Reagan)
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To: AlbionGirl

The last sentence is garbage. The war's long over and our occupation of Iraq was terminated a month ago. People are entitled to change their minds but changing minds on the basis of hindsight is a terrible idea.


24 posted on 07/30/2004 7:28:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

I find that canard about patriotism being the last refuge of a scoundrel irritating. I have always maintained that the REAL last refuge of a scoundrel is "Everybody does it."


25 posted on 07/30/2004 7:29:39 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: RWR8189

He exects the American people to ignore 20 years of voting and on the record speeches and believe what he is saying now, even though 180 degrees away from his known beliefs, is what he really stands for. Talk about thinking the American people are stupid!


26 posted on 07/30/2004 7:29:52 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: skeeter

This is the democrat party looney left.

When a democrat says they are patriotic, they are not telling you which way or at whom they would point the gun.


27 posted on 07/30/2004 7:33:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Rokke

Bill Kristol is a mixed bag. He is moderate, but when he is really open and honest he makes solid points. He was totally disgusted by Ron Reagan's stem cell speech and he was vocal about it the other night. Regarding Kerry, Kristol is right - this speech exposes the Democrats lightness of being when it comes to substance.

Besides the lack of substance on Iraq, Iran and Terror policy in general, he has a major problem on his hands. I turned to Brokaw and Russert after the speech and Tim said very somberly that Bush will relentlessly hit Kerry on the vote against the $87 billion funding for rebuilding Iraq. Did you know that Hillary and Kennedy both voted for it and warned Kerry that he should not go against. The only reason he went against it was for his own crass political despair. He could not risk being "responsible" like Lieberman and we all know how far Joe's responsibility position got him with that bunch. This was when Kerry was in the fight of his life against Dean before Howie imploded. When it came down to a decision he told our soldiers to get lost because he needed credibility with the kook wing of the Donkey party.

The more I see about Kerry and his senate voting record, the better I feel that Bush will soundly beat him.


28 posted on 07/30/2004 7:43:38 PM PDT by untwist
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To: longtermmemmory
When a democrat says they are patriotic, they are not telling you which way or at whom they would point the gun.

You may have meant this in jest, but there's alot of truth in it.

29 posted on 07/30/2004 7:44:17 PM PDT by skeeter
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Kerry's biggest danger in this election was being seen as the unpatriotic, unAmerican choice. I believe he sacrificed all other goals convention week in an attempt to roachbomb this common belief of Americans, that he is too "Frenchish".

His advisors hope that once that angle is no longer discussed by the babbling heads and it is assumed that he is equally as "pro-America" as Bush, then he cna proceed to debate on the issues. Thus, Bush should spend the next month before the convention hammering Kerry for his anti-American activities including protesting Vietnam, voting against funds for our troops, not taking a public stand against Michael Moore, and paying too much attention to what the rest of the world thinks.

If Americans think Kerry is unAmerican, nothing else will matter.

30 posted on 07/30/2004 7:53:41 PM PDT by twgiles
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To: RWR8189
He has failed to provide a real argument for himself, or against the incumbent president.

Precisely.

Kerry thinks the presidency is his birthright.

Given that I worry about his mental state after he loses. If you remember, Gore believed exactly the same thing. And he has seriously gone off the deep end.

Dealing with the fruits and nuts crowd is getting a little eerie.

31 posted on 07/30/2004 8:00:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: RWR8189

(snip)What Bush needs to do is simple: make the positive case for his reelection--for his stewardship of the country since September 11, for the war in Iraq, for his overall success in the global war on terror.

I beleive that's exactly what he's doing except the ignoring Kerry part.He's already reminding voters that KERRY WILL RAISE THIER TAXES.This is smart I can not think of one instance where voters have elected a candidate that admits thier intention to raise taxes.


32 posted on 07/30/2004 8:21:02 PM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
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To: RWR8189
The Democratic nominee has shunned substance for patriotic atmospherics.

And to think he spent days handwriting the speech himself.

33 posted on 07/30/2004 8:33:36 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: GailA

Tubby promised we'd "be out in a year". No one believed him. Not one person in the press challenged him.


34 posted on 07/30/2004 8:45:37 PM PDT by Deb (Hey, Sen. Kerry...why the long face?)
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To: goldstategop

Rush referred to J Effin's campaign as "Strength through Slogans" - referring to the use of every cliche and even borrowing from the GOP's 2000 campaign.


35 posted on 07/30/2004 8:59:41 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: RWR8189
I really think the dems are toast. The convention was supposed to be their "quality time" to present their vision of the country to the country, and their main man was supposed to sum it all up in his acceptance speech. So what did he do instead? He ignored nearly all of the issues a presidential candidate should be addressing and instead talked about what a cuddly teddy bear he is. How pathetic.

I'm sure the backroom discussions these days at the DNC HQ are peppered with phrases like "cluster f***"..."debacle"...."we're hosed".... "maybe he'll have a stroke"....Seriously, Kerry left every national issue unexplained, practically begging Bush and the republicans to define his positon for him, including the war in Iraq!! I don't think there are enough hours in the day for Bush to pummel Kerry on every issue he's left undefined.

The dems have basically walked away from their convention with no national platform. That means they stand for nothing. How long can a political party last that stands for nothing?

36 posted on 07/30/2004 9:24:52 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: thoughtomator
and I swear he said

Hair Pollution

something he and Breck Girl can do something about!
37 posted on 07/30/2004 11:30:41 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: RightWingMama

Yes, he did. he mostly ignored Kerry, but took a few valid an well-aimed swipes at him to keep Kerry on the defensive about his own real liberal record.


38 posted on 07/30/2004 11:58:21 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush - Right for our Times!)
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To: GailA
How did he vote on Bosnia and Kosovo? We are still there...come to think of it slick willie said it would just be a SHORT term thing.

Supposed to be out by Christmas ... ... (wait for it) ... 1996!

39 posted on 07/31/2004 12:39:40 AM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: RWR8189
DEMOCRATS--THE HINDSIGHT PARTY
40 posted on 07/31/2004 5:25:39 AM PDT by wildwood
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