[Jeff Blogworthy]

If this is true, it is as bad as "Christmas in Cambodia." I would like an explanation.

[KeyWest]

Welcome to FR

[TigersEye]

That the Schwarzenegger family would have wanted to take such a trip seems doubtful in the extreme. Patt Morrison of the Los Angeles Times, in an earlier examination of this claim, noted the obstacle of "British and Soviet antipathy during the occupation."

The very fearsomeness of the Soviets would have made any sensible Austrian reluctant to enter their jurisdiction.

Doubt all you want, lefty. All this says is that Arnie's dad and uncle had as big a set as the Terminator. There's no proof here that they didn't visit the Soviet sector just a validation that the Soviets were nasty, mean and scary.

[sharkhawk]

I remember growing up seeing the Soviet tanks in the streets.
Oh my gosh I grew up in Downers Grove Illinois, how can I remember seeing Soviet tanks.
Oh yeah, my parents took me to visit relatives in Poland in '77.

[RGSpincich]

Stefan Karner was once arrested by Arnold's father for being a peeping Franz. /payback is hell

[Jorge]

Now if he said he saw Soviet tanks in California nobody would doubt him.....

[montag813]

Maybe he was confusing himself with the Von Trapp family, and the Soviets with Nazis.

[Knute]

Hasta la vista BABY!
Jeff Blogworthy is not worthy of a second thought.
What tripe!

[Novel]

They are really reaching. They're picking these speeches apart trying to find the least little bit of inconsistency. Something they didn't do with the DNC speeches, I might add. Noah's full article complains that Arnold never said the Soviet tanks were in his hometown, but he "sure as hell implied they were there." I love this word, implied. It's the most over used word in political arguments today. It's akin to the Dems invention of the phrase "It's the seriousness of the charges that matter." It's all mumbo-jumbo political spin. Arnold never said the Soviet tanks were in his hometown. Period. End of story. Unless Arnold's uncle had a car that for some reason was able to travel through Soviet check points and enter Soviet occupied areas of Austria, this is the lamest "Gottcha!" I've ever seen.

[Piquaboy]

You would have to be a brick shy of having a full load to believe anything that Slate puts out.

[TommyDale]

No one has ever accused Slate of being factual or accurate.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I think if I saw Soviet tanks within a day's drive of my home as an eight year old (or even saw pictures of them in the newspaper) and heard adults taking about the Russians, it would have made quite an impression on me, too.

[AmericanMade1776]

[AmericaUnited]

Funny. The left is now trying futilely to make "everyone" into a "WhopMeister" like their boy Johnny.

[mwp99]

Timothy Noah needs to do a "WHOPPER" article on himself.

The characteristic vice of Austrian conservatism isn't softness on communism. It's softness on Nazism.

What is he implying with that statement? These socialism/communism apologists would be funny if it wasn't so serious. How about a look at the differences between "conservatism" in Europe and "conservatism" here. But, no, that would tear you're little jab to pieces, wouldn't it, Timmy?

[kenth]

Uncles car, crossing into Soviet sector - not growing up under Soviet rule.

Timothy Noah discounted what Gov. Schwarzenegger said by brushing away the idea that anyone could have possibly wanted to enter the Soviet sector. He just deemed that impossible to fit his position that Arnold told a lie.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Hey... Arnold can take it and still dish it out...

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[piasa]

Check out Slate's latest reading and listening comprehension problem.

[Musket]

Desperation is so unatractive.

[AndyJackson]

From the article But he sure as hell implied having lived on an everyday basis with both the risk and the reality of encountering Soviet goons. Phrases like "Growing up, we were told" and "I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector" strongly suggest that Soviet soldiers were milling around Thal, the village where Young Arnold lived, or nearby Graz, the closest urban center. Which was impossible, because both were inside the British zone.

This is what comes from college educational institutions that have been taken over by the deconstructivist movement. Nothing is ever literally true. A truth is a lie and a lie is a truth when you look at the deeper context and implications and what the code words mean. Don't lying liberal journalists (three redundancies in a row) understand how much people want to spit when they read this kind of slander.

No one would be afraid of soviet tanks and troops 20 miles away. It could only be if they are in your own village. Besides there was nothing to fear from communist troops anyway.

[hflynn]

Well it isn't true unworthy blogger. Austria was occupied by four-powers, but essentially Russians, from 1945 to 1955.