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NEW Swift Boats AD
http://www.swiftvets.com/ ^

Posted on 09/17/2004 7:09:15 AM PDT by Spackidagoosh

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To: Spackidagoosh

Am I the only one who finds these last two ads a bit less effective? This one is actually a bit confusing.......

I hope the Swiftess still have some bullets left in the magazine.....Fire away, guys!!!


101 posted on 09/17/2004 8:00:10 AM PDT by TitansAFC (Try to avoid the Yahoo! John F. Kerry for president campaign (read: "Yahoo! Election News"))
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To: 5by5
work in the shot of Kerry, the hero of the revolution, hanging in Vietnamese museum as well.

I was thinking the same thing.

102 posted on 09/17/2004 8:02:11 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Mount Athos
There's no way this is going to move votes. Money on this ad is money down the drain. Viewers not already familiar with the event and issue involved will just be left confused. They'll shrug and say, "whatever". Negative ads that aren't effective like this BACKFIRE. If you throw mud you must hit effectively or people think you are just smearing. They should show the one with lots of sincere testimonials, including the guy who treated Kerry for his first purple heart. THAT is convincing, that reaches people, this does not.

Nice try newbie but that crap tain't going to fly around here. Ads using Kerry's own words against him are NOT negative. They're instructional and devastating. Ads showing him the 70's antiwar bum remind voters that there are people who hate the country. Ads showing him contradicting himself remind voters that he can't be trusted in peace...much less war. This is money VERY well spent.
103 posted on 09/17/2004 8:02:54 AM PDT by sdkhaki
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To: Spackidagoosh; spiderman9; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; ...

NEW Swift Boats Ad

http://swift3.he.net/~swift3/dazed.wmv

http://www.swiftvets.com/

*******ALSO*******

C SPAN 9/12/04 :1000's of Vietnam Veterans for the Truth March in DC
(Followed by "protest" with 6 vets for Kerry LOL)
Will Repeat on C SPAN Check Listings

2 hours and 50 minutes of video

rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/c04/c04091204_bushvets.rm

Copy and Paste in Real Player




104 posted on 09/17/2004 8:04:03 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: hexpoppy

It's a different one. They just keep getting better !


105 posted on 09/17/2004 8:06:07 AM PDT by Melinda
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To: dawn53

The RNC needs to run an ad with LTC Calhoun ala the SBVFT Gardner ad where he says, "George Bush served his time in the guard. I was there. We spent man days working together. He was not ever under any definition in any way shirking his duty. Not ever."


106 posted on 09/17/2004 8:06:45 AM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Outlaw76

When you get a willing horse like skerry's record, you flog it another mile.

Drive it home, re-enforce his ever changing going back over 30 years ago, re-enforce, re-enforce, kerry is a liar, kerry is a liar, in his own words kerry is a liar, cannot be trusted, cannot be trusted.

We want the knockout punch, a great boxer can frustrate his opponent's every move and cut him to pieces with sharp bloody jabs, reducing him to a whimpering ineffectual.

Maybe the SBVfT are enjoying Kerry's political death by a thousand cuts.


107 posted on 09/17/2004 8:07:35 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: 5by5

Here's a script I'd love to see them use for an ad:

There's a word for attacking your country in a time of war (clip of Kerry testifying in the background)

There's a word for making false accusations against your fellow soldiers. (Same clip)

There's a word for giving aid and comfort to your country's enemies. (Text "Kerry called Ho Chi Minh Vietnam's George Washington")

There's a word for privately negotiating with the enemy. (text in background "Kerry met with the North Vietnamese")

The word is ...

Treason.




In the words of sportscaster Dan Patrick (ESPN)...

"The pitch...gone." (Home run)

Good job.


108 posted on 09/17/2004 8:07:51 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: "President Bush says what he means and means what he says. CBS does not.")
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This ad stinks. Let me explain why I believe that.

1) It's nitpicky. Its attempt to prove Kerry's a liar relies ENTIRELY on the viewer being able to discern a difference between medals and ribbons. Sorry, but anyone who understands that difference is already voting for Bush. And who cares if he threw five or six or seven over the fence and changes his story on the number. It's so nitpicky that a neutral viewer will scrunch up their face watching it and go "Bleah." This ad is purely red meat for the true believers.

2) Secondly, there's no gravitas. To go from this silly nitpicky humorous rapid cutting of video clips to the conclusion: "John Kerry--can you trust anything he says?" It just doesn't fit. The evidence in the first half of the ad doesn't lead me to the extremely grave conclusion that I can't trust anything John Kerry says.

There's so much better serious material to use to make the point that you can't trust anything John Kerry says. The medals vs. ribbons flap may be important to the SBV, but it's totally irrelevant to the swing voter. We're talking about who's going to save thousands of lives in Iraq, not about who can remember what they threw over a fence thirty years ago.

109 posted on 09/17/2004 8:08:16 AM PDT by tgiles
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To: Spackidagoosh
Great, that was a good one.

How many ads could be made with him saying different things about the same subject?
110 posted on 09/17/2004 8:08:44 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping Tonk!


111 posted on 09/17/2004 8:09:02 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Thank you Swift Vets!

I just sent them a fifty. Keep it up!


112 posted on 09/17/2004 8:10:16 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Spackidagoosh

Wow! They just keep getting better don't they??? Go Swifties!!!


113 posted on 09/17/2004 8:11:13 AM PDT by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: MinuteGal; All

I can't get it to open OR download either, Leni. Please someone tell us what it says. :(


114 posted on 09/17/2004 8:11:16 AM PDT by Billie
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To: Spackidagoosh
"I've been accurate precisely"

...and I've been inaccurate imprecisely...

GREAT AD!!!! Thanks for the link.

115 posted on 09/17/2004 8:12:48 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Imagine there's no Kerry, it's easy if you try... or don't try! ?)
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To: Billie

It's connecting here & I've got dial up....Maybe too many hits at once.


116 posted on 09/17/2004 8:14:03 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: LZ_Bayonet

ZZZZIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGGG!


117 posted on 09/17/2004 8:14:17 AM PDT by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Spackidagoosh

I'd like to shake the hand, and salute each and every one of the Swiftees!


118 posted on 09/17/2004 8:15:14 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
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To: Spackidagoosh
VERY EFFECTIVE. It plays on many levels, flip-flopping, trust, and the trashing of our Nation's most revered symbols.
119 posted on 09/17/2004 8:15:37 AM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: Spackidagoosh

Absolutely devastating


120 posted on 09/17/2004 8:15:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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