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Text of statements by CBS News President Andrew Heyward and anchor Dan Rather
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Posted on 09/20/2004 11:00:55 AM PDT by RedDaring

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To: RedDaring

Sorry,DUPED is not explanation enough.

Was Rather DUPED into hiring only unqualified document examiners and THEN ignoring even their observations that the memps didn't pass a laugh test?

Was Rather DUPED into failing to interview Staudt or Knox?

Was Rather DUPED into failing to reveal the contrary testimony of Mr. Killian's widow and son?

Was he DUPED into continuing to assert the veracity of the memos when it was clear for at least a week they were forgeries?

Was he DUPED into believing that the nutcase Burkett who had long been proven a fbulist and a Kerry fundraiser Barnes with a shady past were "reliable" sources?

Was he DUPED into believing the blogosphere was a VRWC?

Was he DUPED into ignoring that he was a major part of the Kerry Operation Fortunate Son affensive?(Check out today's Weekly Standard for the chronology of this operation and you cannot avoid the clear implication that Kerry, the DNC, certain 527's and, yes, CBS were ALL working together to bring us this fraud.)

Sorry, buddies, You have a long way to go to dig yourself out of this one, and the DUPE shovel is far too small a tool.


41 posted on 09/20/2004 11:35:00 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: IamJustright
"Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic..."

Come again? Why is their inability based on what they now know? I mean, if you cannot get it to fog a mirror, it's a corpse, right? So, if you try and then say, "Based on what we now know, we can't prove this body is living," what is it you now know, that forms the basis for the conclusion? You now know the body is non-living. So...do they now know the docs are not authentic?

42 posted on 09/20/2004 11:35:24 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: RedDaring

Just listening to a Tom Edsall of the Washington Post being interviewed on Fox saying all the charges are true although the documents were faulty. These so called unbiased reporters are pathetic.


43 posted on 09/20/2004 11:39:35 AM PDT by hgro (<i>)
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To: RedDaring

"I would not have gone ahead with the story as it was aired, and I certainly would not have used the documents in question."

In other words, if I knew I was GOING TO BE CAUGHT, I wouldn't have done it that way...

Notice, the wording was not "Had we known the documents were frauds, we would not have done such a story."

They aren't apologizing for the story, just for getting caught.


44 posted on 09/20/2004 11:39:47 AM PDT by Russian55
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To: RedDaring

I don't believe them at all. They wanted so bad to get GWB that they ignored all problems with the documents because it fit the lie they wanted to tell.


45 posted on 09/20/2004 11:43:28 AM PDT by DmBarch
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To: RedDaring

"Dear Stupid People Out there in The Public: We truly regret that our bogus information did not fly with you this time and so we will just say we were misled and hope you are dumb enough to believe we are interested in the truth."

Dan Rather and See B.S.


46 posted on 09/20/2004 11:47:00 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: bayourod

"....Who put Burkett up to "reassembling" the memos?..."

That's the next question we need answered. CBS and Dan Rather are still in CYA mode. Inquiring minds want to know.


47 posted on 09/20/2004 11:47:13 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: lonevoice

Exactly!


48 posted on 09/20/2004 11:49:22 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: mrtysmm
BTT

"....Who put Burkett up to "reassembling" the memos?..." That's the next question we need answered. CBS and Dan Rather are still in CYA mode. Inquiring minds want to know.


Remember Rush pointing to everything aims at Travis County Texas? Austin is in Travis County. Robin is in Austin. Rather (Dan) got caught at a Democratic fund raiser there for/with his daughter Robin. Instinct tells me she is the source & main culprit here and Dan Rather is trying to protect his daughter!


Try Robin Rather!


49 posted on 09/20/2004 11:52:25 AM PDT by B-Cause (Kuck Ferry)
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To: RedDaring
"The names of the people conducting the review will be announced shortly, and their findings will be made public."

James Carville, Larry Flynt, Theresa Heinz Kerry. . .

50 posted on 09/20/2004 11:54:41 AM PDT by Tempest (Don't blame me, I'm voting for Bush.)
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To: RedDaring
Based on what we now know, CBS News cannot prove that the documents are authentic, which is the only acceptable journalistic standard to justify using them in the report.

CBS still refuses to acknowledge that these "memos" are frauds, only that their authenticity cannot be established. CBS just doesn't get! Stop waffling like John Kerry on every position imaginable...admit they are fakes!

51 posted on 09/20/2004 11:57:16 AM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: IamJustright
"...We will continue to work tirelessly to be worthy of that trust."
SeeBS talking about gaining public trust is oxymoron...
52 posted on 09/20/2004 11:58:06 AM PDT by Toidylop
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To: RedDaring
WOW! It took me forever to get through that bullsqueeze.

I'm normally a pretty good reader with average speed and above average comprehension. But this...!

I'd read about three or four sentences and then have to lay down for five minutes to let my head quit spinning. Then I'd read a little more and have to lay down again. Very time consuming.

53 posted on 09/20/2004 12:00:34 PM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: RedDaring

"60 Minutes Wednesday" had full confidence in the original report or it would not have aired."

yeah, right!

you figured that you could get by with it but you didn't count on some ignorant bloggers undoing you!


54 posted on 09/20/2004 12:01:35 PM PDT by ken21
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To: RedDaring; Buckhead
The names of the people conducting the review will be announced shortly, and their findings will be made public.

That should be worth a few laughs.

Buckhead, ya wanna volunteer :)

55 posted on 09/20/2004 12:03:32 PM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: mrtysmm

I suspect that Glenn Smith, the founder of Texans for Truth is the source of the memos. He gave them to Burkett, or showed him copies of other memos which Burkett "reconstituted" etc...
Why Glenn Smith:
1. He is the point man for the Kerry campaign 527s on the issue of Bush's National Guard service. It was his responsibility to get something like these memos out into the news stream.
2. Glenn Smith had plausible credibility as an original source. He was a political operative of Gov. Ann Smith when Bush ran against her. It was his job then to dig up dirt on Bush. Since he worked for the Gov it would have been no problem for him to slither on down to the National Guard and look through their records for anything that could be used against Bush. In fact he would be derelict if he hadn't.
3. Glenn Smith could plausibly convince Burkett that he, Glenn Smith, couldn't be the one that passed on the memos because that would link the 527s (and Soros) to the Kerry Campaign.
4. Glenn Smith, a personal friend of Dan Rather's daughter, campaign manager of last Democrat Tex Governor candidate, former Houston Chronicle reporter etc... was "unimpeachable" in Dan Rather's eyes.
5. Glenn Smith is someone that CBS would have to protect because the disclosure of his identity and connections with the Kerry campaign, MoveOn, and Rathers would bring down the whole house of cads. (no sp)


56 posted on 09/20/2004 12:11:10 PM PDT by bayourod (Hagel's anti-war statements are unpatriotic and endanger the lives of our troops.)
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To: the Real fifi
There are plenty of DUpes out there, that are just stupid or misguided.

Rather is more than a DUpe. He is a willing accomplice to DNC fraud, treachery and federal crimes.

57 posted on 09/20/2004 12:12:19 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."--Putin / "A more sensitive war on terror." --Kerry)
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To: RedDaring

Can someome remind me...didn't Dan say "this came from an uninpeachable source" :-)


58 posted on 09/20/2004 12:13:56 PM PDT by free_life
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To: bayourod; Moose4; outlawcam; ghost of nixon; RedDaring; IamJustright; farmfriend; A. Pole; ...
Guys, The following is from an article at WND. Basing qualification on stupidity, do Texans REALLY want this guy on their Supreme Court?? LOL! Peace and love, George.
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But in a letter to the American Spectator, Burkett's lawyer David Van Os said:

"Based upon my personal knowledge of Bill Burkett's character from knowing him and knowing of his reputation among his peers, I will state unequivocally that Bill Burkett did not falsify or create the "CBS documents." I do not assume that anyone falsified or created those documents until more is known, but if anyone did, it was not Bill Burkett.

I will stake my reputation and good name on this certainty. Further from my knowledge of Bill Burkett's character and integrity, I will state unequivocally that if, hypothetically speaking, Bill Burkett handled documents that were recent creations rather than true copies of originals, he would have done so only because he had reason to believe they were true copies rather than recent creations."

Van Os is a candidate for the Texas Supreme Court.


59 posted on 09/20/2004 12:22:40 PM PDT by George Frm Br00klyn Park (FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RedDaring

So stupid is as stupid does.

I guess this takes them out of the "with malice" regime?

They're only sorry they got caught.


60 posted on 09/20/2004 12:34:14 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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