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Muslim scholar rouses support over visa revocation
Catholic News Service ^ | September 16, 2004 | Patricia Zapor

Posted on 09/22/2004 9:12:30 AM PDT by NYer

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"I think it would have been useful to Catholic-Muslim dialogue in this country for him to teach in the United States," Father Tiso said.

Fine! Let him find a non-sectarian college or university.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 9:12:31 AM PDT by NYer
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I think it would have been useful to Catholic-Muslim dialogue in this country

Translation:
It would have been useful for Dhimmi-Muslim dialogue in this country.

2 posted on 09/22/2004 9:16:01 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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I think it would have been useful to Catholic-Muslim dialogue in this country for him to teach in the United States," Father Tiso said.

Dialogue? I'll give them dialogue. "Get the hell out of my country!"

3 posted on 09/22/2004 9:17:30 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Eff him and the horse he tried to ride in on! What was Notre Dame thinking? The more I see of Islam the more I am convinced it is nothing but a death cult. It may not have always been thus but it has certainly evolved into one. Of course, in a reciprocal move, I'm sure some priest has been invited to spend a semester at Riyadh U lecturing on the glories of Christianity. NOT!
4 posted on 09/22/2004 9:18:04 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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“In an interview about ten years ago, I was asked candidly and with enviable optimism: ‘Do you also hold that Europe will either be Christian or not be?’ It seems to me that the reply I made then is well suited to the conclusion of my statements today.

“I think – I said then – that Europe will either become Christian again or become Muslim. What seems to me to be without a future is the ‘culture of nothing’, of freedom without limits or content, of scepticism hailed as an intellectual conquest, which seems to be the attitude mainly dominant among the European peoples, more or less rich in means and poor in truth. This ‘culture of nothing’ (supported by hedonism and libertine insatiability) will not be able to bear the ideological assault of Islam, which will not be lacking. Only the rediscovery of the Christian drama as the only salvation for man – and thus only a decisive resurrection of the ancient spirit of Europe – can offer a different outcome to this inevitable confrontation.

“Unfortunately, neither the secularists nor the Catholics seem to be aware of the drama that is approaching. The secularists, hammering at the Church in every way possible, do not realize that they are fighting the strongest source of inspiration and the most valid defense of Western civilization and its values of rationality and freedom: perhaps they will realize it too late. ..... "
Tariq Ramadan's Two-Faced Islam. The West Is the Land of Conquest

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5 posted on 09/22/2004 9:18:07 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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I think 9/11 taught me all I need to know about Islam.


6 posted on 09/22/2004 9:19:23 AM PDT by beethovenfan
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...he would add a valuable voice to religious understanding.
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191)
 
I think I understand all I need to about islam.

Owl_Eagle

" I didn't like it when he compared our troops to Jen-jis Khan.
I don't like his stance on jun control.
And I think John Kerry is jonna jet me killed.
"


7 posted on 09/22/2004 9:20:24 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Say it with me Jen-jis, Jen-jis... Jen-jis Kahahn.)
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Follow the money. I suspect the university wants the cash that is being offered to fund the chair--


8 posted on 09/22/2004 9:20:43 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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And leave it to the liberal US Conference of Catholic Bishops to go in the tank for this pagan towel head.

He must have a son they think is cute.

9 posted on 09/22/2004 9:21:59 AM PDT by Gurn (Islam is a cancer.)
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Notre Dame needs to import some REAL Catholic theologians and denounce Islam as the heresy it is.

Deacon Francis

10 posted on 09/22/2004 9:22:21 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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"And Ramadan's studies could benefit from closely observing the very different role religion plays in U.S. society than it does in Europe, he added."

Has'nt anyone figured it out yet? What is there to "learn" or "study" about Islam.? People who cant even read or write can tell you whats in the Bull$**t book.

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

If they believe in the quran, then this my friend is enough grounds to revoke and take the whole lot of them back to the sand pits of Bagdad or wherever they came from.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 9:22:34 AM PDT by ruready4eternity ( allah & the religion of "peace" Coming to a bus & crowded street near you- strapped with presents)
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I guess we should have suspected this after the sprots teams had their knickname changed from the 'Fighting Irish' to the 'Jihading Irish'.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 9:23:55 AM PDT by pikachu (The REAL script)
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Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Ishaq:324 “He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.’”


13 posted on 09/22/2004 9:24:05 AM PDT by ruready4eternity ( allah & the religion of "peace" Coming to a bus & crowded street near you- strapped with presents)
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Ramadan said he makes "no apologies for taking a critical look at both Islam and the West...

Looks like he'll be doing it in Switzerland.

14 posted on 09/22/2004 9:25:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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What was Notre Dame thinking?

Same thing they were thinking when they brought in a very militant aethist to teach philosophy in order to 'challenge' the students there. I know this because he was a friend in a past life.

A_R

15 posted on 09/22/2004 9:26:02 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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"Ramadan said he makes "no apologies for taking a critical look at both Islam and the West; in doing so I am being true to my faith and to the ethics of my Swiss citizenship. I believe Muslims can remain faithful to their religion and be able, from within pluralistic and democratic societies, to oppose all injustices."
BS He is another Islamic radical trying to convince us they are peaceful. NOT! Just ask the families of the two Americans the SOB's just beheaded. Send him to Abadan Iran they would love to hear from him.
16 posted on 09/22/2004 9:26:13 AM PDT by gakrak
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Looks like a good call by Homeland Security. We have enough America haters already teaching in our universities.


17 posted on 09/22/2004 9:27:00 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Dan Rather, "I lied, but I lied about the truth".)
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Call in John Ashcroft.


18 posted on 09/22/2004 9:27:17 AM PDT by ruready4eternity ( allah & the religion of "peace" Coming to a bus & crowded street near you- strapped with presents)
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He said he shares some Muslims' criticisms of Western governments, including "the deleterious worldwide effects of unregulated American consumerism" and finds U.S. policies in the Middle East "misguided and counterproductive."

Lives in one of the most prosperous European countries and was on his way to live the cushy life of a professor on a major US campus. More Muslim hypocrisy.

19 posted on 09/22/2004 9:27:24 AM PDT by CaptainK
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Is anyone aware of high-quality blogs or other sources of news about this -- outside of the MSM?

I live just 40 miles from ND, so I have a special interest in this matter. I'm very skeptical of Islam. But on the other hand, I don't want to be harsh toward a Muslim who wants his religion to evolve into something modern and peaceful. I doubt Mr. Ramadan is one of the good guys, but I'm willing (and happy) to be wrong about that.
20 posted on 09/22/2004 9:28:09 AM PDT by 68skylark
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