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LIBERTARIAN PARTY FOUNDER ENDORSES BUSH
AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL LIBERTARIANS | 10-24-2004 | Dr. John Hospers

Posted on 10/24/2004 10:37:30 AM PDT by Y2Krap

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To: BigSkyFreeper

And if they actually do influence the election outcome in ANY state?


161 posted on 10/24/2004 10:57:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

My point exactly, they won't have ANY influence.


162 posted on 10/24/2004 10:59:00 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

They succeeded in electing a liberal Senator in Washington state last election. The LP had a full court press on against the encumbant Republican; instead on putting their effort into local and state races they put it all into playing spoiler.


163 posted on 10/24/2004 11:01:07 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
They succeeded in electing a liberal Senator in Washington state last election.

Hadn't realized that, but that's a good point you raise.

164 posted on 10/24/2004 11:14:37 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (If you're for civil unions, you're for gay marriage)
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To: Graymatter
However, when he lumps Kerry with leftists like Clinton & Clinton, I must protest. Kerry is WAY left of anyone who ever was born in Arkansas. Kerry is a globalist in the sense that the Clintons could never approach. They are, as Ayn Rand would have it, pikers. People like Kerry are far, far more dangerous.

You would be, perhaps correct if you were describing only BJ, but remember, Herself was not an Arkansas native, but a Chicagoan, and no bumpkin. She is every bit as dangerous as Kerry, for the same reasons...

the infowarrior

165 posted on 10/24/2004 11:16:06 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: FrPR

Good for Farah!

BTW, I really like that musical intro. Who is that?


166 posted on 10/24/2004 11:35:51 PM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: FrPR

Farah's bit late on the bandwagon, but I'm glad he finally made the jump.


167 posted on 10/25/2004 12:41:55 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Y2Krap

Great Essay.


168 posted on 10/25/2004 12:51:39 AM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: Y2Krap

I am a lurker here.. I am a libertarian too like some in this thread. I was going to go Badnarik but I realized Bush did enough things I liked that I was going to vote for him. Namely the estate tax, and the marriage penalty.. removing those were the big things for me.

And as you guys know the presidency is so powerful at the moment, it doesn't seem like a good idea to throw away your vote to send a message.. when there is a lot of difference between Bush and Hanoi Kerry.

I still do plan to vote libertarian in local elections and state where the republican hasn't worked to limit the size of government though.


169 posted on 10/25/2004 1:39:30 AM PDT by libertyfighter
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To: Uncle Vlad

Excellent post!


170 posted on 10/25/2004 2:41:04 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: fritzz
I heard all this 4 years ago. I don't agree with you nor am I going to change your mind. So, Let just leave it at that. Perhaps someday we'll agree on something....I hope not.

Agreed. With 20/20 hindsight this seems almost prophetic....no?

What is the Bloody Point?

Best regards,

171 posted on 10/25/2004 5:44:58 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Most Americans feel that way, and they aren't Libertarians. I know I'm not.

Excellent!

Perhaps you will find this of value:

The federal government has nothing to fear from the Constitution

Best regards,

172 posted on 10/25/2004 5:56:39 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Uncle Vlad
I believe, my friends, we are in a Cold Civil War with the Democrat party, which is now run by its lunatic, far-Left fringe.

Affirmative on that. There's an old Russian proverb that the good Lord puts each of us on beautiful Earth at a certain time and in a certain place to do His work. Probably most do not carry out this duty or are unable to do so because of circumstances. But for those of us who have been made free - because of the sacrifices of others - and able to do so, it is our task to struggle against manifest evil. The sinner can be forgiven - but not the sin.

173 posted on 10/25/2004 7:42:49 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: tpaine
Too bad that some self-avowed conservative-jihadics feel it necessary to make unfounded & ridiculous claims about libertarians.

Fortunately for GW, and the rest of us, they'll give the hateful little twits all the attention and consideration they deserve.

174 posted on 10/25/2004 8:01:16 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: muleskinner
How did you get this letter if nobody else has it and it's not posted anywhere?

And what font is it written in?

175 posted on 10/25/2004 8:05:40 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: tacticalogic

Read later


176 posted on 10/25/2004 8:06:04 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Sofa King
Let me fix that for you.

That's gonna be a kick in the nuts to a lot of liberals FReepers who think that the libertarian party is with them a punnish name for liberals.
177 posted on 10/25/2004 8:08:29 AM PDT by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: Xenalyte

ping


178 posted on 10/25/2004 8:17:31 AM PDT by KingPin
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To: Y2Krap
The American electorate is not yet psychologically prepared for a completely libertarian society. A transition to such a society takes time and effort, and involves altering the mind-set of most Americans, who labor under a plethora of economic fallacies and political misconceptions. It will involve a near-total restructuring of the educational system, which today serves the liberal-left education bureaucracy and Democratic Party, not the student or parent. It will require a merciless and continuous expose of the bias in the mainstream media (the Internet, blogs, and talk radio have been extremely successful in this regard over the past few years). And it will require understanding the influence and importance of the Teresa Kerry-like Foundations who work in the shadows to undermine our constitutional system of checks and balances.

Most of all, it will require the American people -- including many libertarians – to realize the overwhelming dangerousness of the American Left – a Fifth Column comprised of the elements mentioned above, dedicated to achieving their goal of a totally internationally dominated America, and a true world-wide Fascism.

A refreshing analysis from a man from a time past - back when the Libertarian Party made sense and was pragmatic instead of purist.

179 posted on 10/25/2004 8:20:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: KingPin

Have we already seen Losertarian, Liberaltarian, Liberdopian, and Libertine on this thread? Those are so clever. I can't get enough of them.


180 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:02 AM PDT by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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