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Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction
eurekalert/University of Chicago ^ | 26-Oct-2004 | Steve Koppes

Posted on 10/26/2004 7:36:36 PM PDT by ckilmer

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To: LogicWings
Let me know when you dispense with time. I'd like to live forever.

Photons seem to have managed that trick. But they have no sex life.

281 posted on 10/28/2004 3:37:28 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Registered here for five years!!)
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To: Jorge
We "perceive" time as flowing forward because that is the nature of time, the reality we live in.

Yes, well, we "perceive" the earth to be flat, too. I mean, just look around you! Isn't it obvious?

282 posted on 10/28/2004 5:36:06 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: LogicWings

BTTT


283 posted on 10/28/2004 6:24:43 AM PDT by timestax
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To: PatrickHenry

Sex-free placemarker


284 posted on 10/28/2004 7:30:04 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: ckilmer
Witten

It is possible that of the eleven dimensions, the eleventh thanks to Witten's M-theory, the ones we see are the ones that were affected by gravitational inflation and may constitute a brane.

285 posted on 10/28/2004 9:20:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: grey_whiskers
pointers to the math

A physics society would have journals available in specific disciplines such as cosmology. Picking out the articles specific to string theory would be up to the reader, and the math might be rarified for the non-specialist.

286 posted on 10/28/2004 9:24:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Oberon
Yes, well, we "perceive" the earth to be flat, too. I mean, just look around you! Isn't it obvious?

No, it isn't obvious. Those of us who have flown (which is most of us) in airplanes have seen the curvature of the earth. Most people see photos from satellites and the space station. The earth doesn't look flat at all.

Besides my point was that our comprehension of time as flowing forward was far more than just a "perception".
We have all kinds of objective evidence that time moves forward which is not only obvious to the simplest of minds but scientifically provable.

287 posted on 10/28/2004 4:09:09 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge

That's a point I've been trying to make for a long time.


288 posted on 10/28/2004 4:13:58 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Doofenzee gaboofen, ja?)
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To: PatrickHenry
But they have no sex life.

Tkhat would take all the fun out of it.

289 posted on 10/28/2004 5:31:30 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: ApesForEvolution
If I had a nickel...

The reason you don't have that nickel is because the blade who wrote this 'research' got your taxes.

290 posted on 10/28/2004 5:35:57 PM PDT by Calusa (One Nation Gone Under.)
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To: Jorge
No, it isn't obvious. Those of us who have flown (which is most of us) in airplanes have seen the curvature of the earth. Most people see photos from satellites and the space station. The earth doesn't look flat at all.

Well, to some folks who have done the math, time doesn't look flat either. That's the point I was trying to make.

291 posted on 10/28/2004 5:36:28 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ckilmer
Carroll and Chen extend this idea in dramatic fashion, suggesting that inflation could start "in reverse" in the distant past of our universe, so that time could appear to run backwards (from our perspective) to observers far in our past.

Carrol and Chen must have been enjoying the same gin soaked raisins that Ms. Kerry has been nipping on!

292 posted on 10/28/2004 6:01:02 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: RightWhale

Witten
It is possible that of the eleven dimensions, the eleventh thanks to Witten's M-theory, the ones we see are the ones that were affected by gravitational inflation and may constitute a brane.
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Notice your use of the words "possible" and "may"

the blog I mentioned from columbia u math dept before has all real math guys there. I pulled a piece out of a longer post of one of these math guys who from first hand experience recounted the history of string theory people from the theory's inception. so i'm inclined to believe the guy when he says that besides the witten stuff "I think string theory has been an utter disaster for theoretical physics"

from what I've read apparently superstring theory fills some kind of philosophical need similiar to that of aether theory in the 19th century.

but if your point is that theoretical physics is showing the darkness that in the past (like in the late 19th century) has generally preceded a pretty big paradigm shift. Then I would agree.


293 posted on 10/28/2004 8:29:32 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Camachee

cognitive dissonance
may be discerned
in the clock face
sign, hung
upon the door
of the little
shop of hours,

closed for lunch
come back yesterday
bring your own flowers.


294 posted on 10/29/2004 8:04:45 AM PDT by Kay Syrah (the difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad))
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To: ckilmer
but if your point is

My point is that math is merely useful, but any correlation to reality lies in procurement of project funding.

The covariant derivative is anticommutative.
-willful suspension of disbelief [Coleridge]

295 posted on 10/29/2004 8:15:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Kay Syrah

cognitive dissonance
may be discerned
in the clock face
sign, hung
upon the door
of the little
shop of hours,

closed for lunch
come back yesterday
bring your own flowers.







Beautiful. Every time I think I'm the only one who gets it, someone such as you posts such as this.

The name on the forehead of the Harlot was Mystery.

That is the one thing they all are afraid of.


296 posted on 10/29/2004 12:21:46 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: timestax

bttt


297 posted on 11/01/2004 11:29:37 AM PST by timestax
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To: ckilmer

bttt


298 posted on 11/25/2004 8:44:50 PM PST by timestax
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To: Kay Syrah

we are pinned beneath
the stars that bowl
like forever
is a card
commemorating
the time we cannot hold

299 posted on 06/07/2005 5:45:36 PM PDT by Kay Syrah ((*))
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