Indonesia's Lost World: Shaking Up The Family Tree (More - New Human Species)

Archaeology ^ | 10-28-2004 | Davisd Keys

[blam]

Flores Island

[blam]

I think Flores Island is in the island chain just above the word Kupang

[VadeRetro]

Kudos! Your "orang pendek" suspicions shared by "some zoologists."

[VadeRetro]

Another Homo floresiensis article with some new details. You had mentioned an interest.

[Bob J]

Could they have crossed over from the Asian mainland during an ice age?

[Bob J]

It is, I dove off it for several days two years ago.

[VadeRetro]

The local tradition for Homo floresiensis is potentially significant. Villagers in Flores say that up until around 150 years ago, there were small, three-foot-tall hairy "people" who used to steal food from them. Known as the ebu gogos (literally "the grandmothers who eat anything"), they were tolerated by islanders until they stole a baby and ate it. Whether the ebu gogo is pure myth or an accurate recollection of Homo floresiensis is at present unprovable.

There's yet another possibility, comparable to the idea that the dragon legends around the world originated from the dinosaur fossils which people must have been unearthing throughout history. Maybe modern scientists aren't the first to unearth these types of remains on Flores and elsewhere. People find something like this and stories get started.

[blam]

"Could they have crossed over from the Asian mainland during an ice age?"

I'm fairly well travelled but I was having trouble placing Flores...That's why I went looking for the maps. It looks like it was part of Sundaland during the Ice Age. These guys haven't been isolated on that island for more that 15,000 years.

[blam]

Where Was Atlantis? Sundaland Fits The Bill, Surely!

[rwfromkansas]

thanks

[SunkenCiv]

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[valkyrieanne]

Thank you for the link to the Australian DNA work. With this Flores research, people in Europe and North America may be forced to look at it & take it more seriously. The whole science of human origins has suddenly gotten VERY interesting.

What really sends shivers up my spine is the possiblity that some of these Flores Men might actually be around today, on some remote Indonesian island.

[blam]

"What really sends shivers up my spine is the possiblity that some of these Flores Men might actually be around today, on some remote Indonesian island."

Yup. Would they come under the Endangered Species Act?

[Inyo-Mono]

"We now have to entertain the possibility that somewhere within the islands of southeast Asia, early types of human being--long thought to have been extinct--may indeed still survive,"

Very cool.

So maybe all those stories about hairy wildmen; aka: Abominable Snowmen aren't so far fetched after all. I'd bet my life on it.

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[SunkenCiv]

a link to one of those older, unkeywordable, unpingable topics:

Australia DNA Challenges Human Origin Theories
Culture/Society News Keywords: HUMAN EVOLUTION, DNA
Source: Reuters Health via Yahoo
Published: 1-09-01 Author: Keith Mulvihill
Posted on 01/10/2001 08:30:57 PST by Pharmboy
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a5c1dc1501c.htm

[blam]

"These fossils, dating from as far back as 60,000 years, had previously been identified as anatomically modern, meaning that they look and function very similarly to the skeletons of people living today."

These remains were redated to 42,000 years old.

[SunkenCiv]

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