Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

For Some, the Race Remains Far From Over (many Ohio RATS won't let it go)
Yahoo News ^ | 12/12/04 | Sam Howe Verhovek

Posted on 12/12/2004 6:00:15 AM PST by Libloather

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 next last
To: Common Tator
I think you are absolutely right! Kerry didn't fight the Ohio results because an investigation would reveal not only the traditional, highly organized and systemic Democrat voter fraud. Kerry knew an investigation would reveal the democrats' newest weapon: the illegal registration and absentee fraud perpetrated by Moveon.org with Soros money.

The Democrats were certain Kerry would win Ohio, "if every vote is counted", their talking heads declared. There's no doubt in my mind that the Kerry campaign was certain of an illegal victory in Ohio. So was John Zogby.

21 posted on 12/12/2004 6:52:59 AM PST by YaYa123 (@Still Savoring Ohio.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: StoneColdTaxHater
It's funny because they claimed that polls before election day underpolled support for Kerry because of all those cellphones that weren't being polled (Katrina Vanden Heuvel John Batchelor Show November 1st, 2004). Now they want us to believe that exit polls were more accurate than the actual vote. Kerry didn't do all that bad in Ohio. From 2000, the democratic candidate lost by 165,000 votes, this time only by 119,000. Statistical evidence shows that, if any, the fraud was committed by the Democrats.
22 posted on 12/12/2004 6:57:03 AM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

"an inquiry into fraud allegations"

If anyone would know about voting fraud, it would be the "Democrats". Dims, Demo-rats, Demo-crits, Demo-traitors, etc.


23 posted on 12/12/2004 7:10:23 AM PST by garyhope
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Ballot-box stuffing is an old American tradition,

A Rat tradition, Cliffy. That's how you got Saint JFK to the White House in 1960.

24 posted on 12/12/2004 7:26:40 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: garyhope
Ohio elections chief Blackwell told Tony Snow that Diebold had NO machines in Ohio. So much for that theory....

Blackwell, btw, is sharp as a tack and has announced for Governor. Watch him.

25 posted on 12/12/2004 7:28:42 AM PST by chiller (1 down (Jf'nK) and 1 to go (old media))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: YaYa123
Illegal votes in Ohio

The Kerry Campaign gave MoveOn.Org and other 527s most of the control of the Grass Roots Democratic Campaign here in Ohio. In the past the Democrats had a fantastic grass roots organization made up of labor union "volunteers." I say "Volunteers" because the workers supplied by the labor unions were not paid. They "volunteered" to keep their jobs. In the past the labor efforts were fantastic. And they got every Democratic voter registered and got most of them to the polls. The were very good at buying votes.

The Soros funded 527s were just plain amateurs. They hired people to register Democratic voters. The hired registrars were paid 10 dollars for every person they registered. Many of these hired guns registered as many as 100 new voters a day. That is an impossible number unless they are just making up name. These hired guns registered a total of over 230 thousand "new" Democratic voters.

What became obvious to the Bush campaign was most of these "new" Democratic voters were names taken from city and county directories. Others were made up names that were given existing addresses. I was one of the Bush Volunteers tasked with checking out these "new" voters. It was obvious. Bush volunteers found as many as 15 people registered all living at the same one bedroom apartment address. They had to be fake.

That is the people they hired just filled out 100 registrations a day. They found the names in county directories, phone books or just made up names and gave them existing addresses. These "NEW" voters did not exist.

The Bush campaign made lists of these so called voters. One possible scenario was that a least some people would show up on election day claiming to be these fake voters and demanding to vote. The Bush campaign was prepared to challenge the fake voters. They never showed.

The conclusion is they Soros funded 527s were ripped off. They was no plan to get ringers to vote these fake registrations. They did try to call them from Democratic party headquarters. That is evidence the Democratic party believed that the Soros funded 527s had actually registered these people.

The Kerry Campaign believed their Soros funded 527s had registered 230 thousand new voters. The truth is those 230 fake voters never voted. They were counting on them to vote. And were very surprised when they did not.

It is interesting to look a the turn out numbers. You may recall that Rush and others were reporting that some Columbus, Ohio precincts had more people registered than there were voting age residents. Those were city precincts where the Soro's paid people had registered tens of thousands of "new" voters. The turn out in Ohio was about 68 percent. It is worth noting the turn out in those city precincts was about 40 percent. That proves the fake voters names were not voted.

The actual truth is that Soros paid rip off artists 1,000 dollars a day to rip him and the Democratic Party off.

Kerry was convinced that he was going to win Ohio because he believed those fake voters were going to vote.

It seems likely to me that the exit pollsters took those registration numbers and used them to weight the turn out in those precincts in Ohio. So the exit polls were very wrong. Wrong because the exit pollsters believed the fake voters were voting. The precincts full of fake registrations actually exit polled at 10 to 1 for Kerry. The registration numbers and the 68 percent turnout projections showed that there should be 1600 votes and that Kerry would get 1400 of them. But the turn out was only 600 voters and Keary actually got 540 votes. If they were counting on 200 democratic presents having 900 more Kerry votes than were actually cast, then they could expect Kerry to have 150 thousand more votes than he got and a 30,000 vote win.

Nearly all of Kerry's 230 "NEW" Democratic voters turned out to be imaginary voters.

The Bush campaign was aware that they were fake three weeks before the election. I was one of two Bush volunteers who helped make that determination for Pike County Ohio. It turned out to be true. The registrations were fake but the Democrats believed them to be real.
26 posted on 12/12/2004 7:39:39 AM PST by Common Tator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

And because although he (Kerry) is a loathsome, liberal creep, he is not a deluded fool like Arneison.


27 posted on 12/12/2004 7:41:40 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free_at_last_-2001

Especially from that paragon of honest financial gains the "Rev" Jackson


28 posted on 12/12/2004 7:42:32 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

excuse me ARNEBECK... not Arneison.


29 posted on 12/12/2004 7:42:34 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
Actually, if Ohio were to go into the Kerry column, he would have 272 electoral votes to Bush's 266; 270 EVs are needed to win so (shudder) Kerry would become the president.

Any support by Kerry for a recount, of course, is another flip-flop since a concession means the loser isn't going to contest the election. This guy has no integrity in anything he does, from tossing his medals over the White House fence to spending Christmas in Cambodia.

30 posted on 12/12/2004 7:43:59 AM PST by Menehune56
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: chiller

I hope Blackwell gets the nomination.

It seems the "establishment" is trying to stick us with Betty Montgomery. If she gets the nomination, I fear much of the GOP base stays home on Election Day. It would be more of the same of what we got now.


31 posted on 12/12/2004 7:44:34 AM PST by Columbus Dawg (Buckeye Country is Bush Country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
Or, at least, order a revote

A revote????

And as for those lines??

Millions of Americans across this country voted .. and the left doesn't understand why there would be a line of people waiting to vote??

32 posted on 12/12/2004 7:45:38 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: edskid

And the people of Ohio can now identify with the Florida voters.

What went on in Florida in 2000 was a "tempest in a teapot". Because of the butterfly ballot and the closeness of the count, all hell broke loose and the Dems thought they could "steal" an election. It wasn't any more confusing that wnat happens in most states if that state is placed under a microscope.

And Ohio did not "win" this election for Bush, Ohio was no more important than a half dozen other close states that had a narrow victory for Kerry. The parts make the whole, and we could just as easily be counting PA or WI or MI to see why Bush didn't win those states but since Kerry won, the Dems aren't concerned about "every" vote being counted in those states.

So in Florida because there was so much screaming about the punch cards and hanging chads in 2000, we changed to touch screen, and now that Harris woman is claiming the touch screens were manipulated in Florida.

Well, excuse me, but if they don't want punch cards, they don't trust touch screens, and they don't like optical scanners, they're a little too conspiratorial for me.


33 posted on 12/12/2004 7:47:56 AM PST by dawn53
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

"I would like to welcome you to Ukraine," said Susan Truitt, a speaker last weekend at a rally outside the Ohio statehouse, where 400 showed up to demand an inquiry into fraud allegations"

That was their big rally last week that was going to let the world know that Bush couldn't have possibly won. They had visions of the entire city being covered by demos protesting. 400 people gathered from all around the country. Now if 400 doesn't send a clear message...


34 posted on 12/12/2004 7:50:10 AM PST by InTheRight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

I would be much more impressed with these count every vote people if they were looking into the closer races like WI, NH or even PA.

What? Kerry won those, so by definition there could have been no fraud in those? Never mind then.


35 posted on 12/12/2004 7:52:07 AM PST by Let's Roll (Democrats - What happens when mental illness manifests itself as a political party.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Libloather
I am absolutely bloody fed up with these people. One more time for the benefit of the Democrats:

YOU LOST!

Bloody well shut up and suck on a tailpipe if you don't like it, you whingeing crybabies.

Ivan

36 posted on 12/12/2004 7:57:03 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Menehune56
I may be wrong but I believe that for the 20 ecv to go into the Kerry column there would have to be a re-vote and Kerry would need to win. Otherwise the results of the election in Ohio and the 20 ev would be set aside due to irregularities that would cause a protracted legal challenge interfering with the Jan 20, 2005 final certification date. Bush's victory in this case would be maintained.
37 posted on 12/12/2004 8:02:39 AM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Columbus Dawg

Who is Betty Montgomery? Popular? Able to beat Blackwell in a primary?


38 posted on 12/12/2004 8:05:12 AM PST by chiller (1 down (Jf'nK) and 1 to go (old media))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Libloather

Any mind that is capable of accepting and believing in the delusional, provably false economic theory of socialism doesn't have to far to jump to accept the conspiracy theory that John Kerry really won.


39 posted on 12/12/2004 8:10:08 AM PST by Hardastarboard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Common Tator
Your post has more information on the voting in Ohio than the last ten million Dummie posts.

Thanks.
40 posted on 12/12/2004 8:10:25 AM PST by cgbg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson