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CA: Anaheim mosque leader agrees to leave United States
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 12/28/04 | AP

Posted on 12/28/2004 5:34:02 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Dude, I was totally going to say that. Except I was going to add "...hit your ass..."


21 posted on 12/28/2004 8:08:22 PM PST by Blast_Master
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To: ken5050
Precisely. This is but one small example of a burgeoning network of Islamist malignancy that will literally overwhelm our law enforcement and judicial systems within a decade. Not to mention our intelligence apparati.

What is transpiring in Europe should give us cause for great alarm and s siren call to "General Quarters".

It has not happened -- and probably will be too late in coming. There will be a continuing debate about "Good Muslims" and potentially "Bad Muslims" -- all the time failing to confront the basic reality set forth so definitively by a host of scholars over the years:

Islam is NOT a peaceful religion/civilization. It is rife with bloody conflict and sustained conquest since Muhammad's death in 732. And, it totally incompatible with the basic structural and cultural/ideological processes that are the core of democratic governance.

Bernard Lewis has updated his forecast for the demise of Western Europe to Islam from the turn of the century to 2075. (Sweden and Italy within 20 years) And, I submit, we are in the beginning stages of a mortal conflict that could very well be the death knell of Western Civilization and Liberal Democracy -- and, of course, the end of the United States as we know it today.

World War IV has commenced. Do we as a nation have the fortitude and resolve to meet the challenge before us?

IMHO an open question. I have my doubts.
22 posted on 12/28/2004 8:22:19 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; sheik yerbouty

Is this a different mosque than the one Adam Gadahn and Saraah Olson were associated with?


23 posted on 12/28/2004 9:49:38 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Rummyfan

One imam at an Islamic Center fingered a radical that had been attending his Center. A local news channel showed the imam verifying that a taped message from Ghadahn(a convert to Islam) was indeed the same radical that had gone astray and went to Pakistan. The imam was criticized by some as having been "Americanized".

Relatives of Ghadahn refused to recognize him as the same man that made the tape calling for 'blood on American streets'. The tape showed the man's face masked by a cloth, but the imam recognized him by his voice and gestures.

There's a followup story related to this at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308240/posts


24 posted on 12/28/2004 10:12:12 PM PST by Susannah (www.AmericasSecretWar.com)
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To: MEG33

They've gotten far more than one. I was watching the history channel and they had a special on Al-Qaeda. They showed how parts of the Patriot Act allowed them to investigate charities and identify some of the "sleeper cells" that were funneling money to terrorists. Gosh, the Mosque leaders they jailed in Brooklyn were admittedly funneling money to Hamas.

There was also a segment on how they got the Swiss to help track down some terrorist that was communicating with some special encrypted card in a phone cell that the Swiss later found a way to track.

The scary part on the history channel was the segment on Al-Qaeda's Navy. They showed how terrorists could use the internet to misportray their vessel identification and sneak into the ports. Fortunately, they also showed agents working to infiltrate/screen the computers to look for altered data prior to port entry.

Our ports, especially in Los Angeles and San Francisco are under close scrutiny by the Coast Guard, but they said that some of the terrorists could disguise their vessels to appear as fishing vessels (in the same way many drugs are smuggled in through the ports).

DUH, I watched a debate for the Los Angeles Mayor race on a local public channel earlier this week. The candidates were discussing the added pollution the port inspections are causing (vessels with cargo idling and waiting truckers at the docks are using more diesel causing more pollution).


25 posted on 12/28/2004 10:38:46 PM PST by Susannah (www.AmericasSecretWar.com)
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To: calcowgirl

That wasn't a mosque that Gadahn attended; It was an Islamic Society which seems to have an imam that is cooperating in pointing out radicals:

(from the link that I posted at #24 about the Olson story:

"ABC-TV reported that her story was confirmed in detail by the Imam of the Islamic Society of Orange County, Haitham Bundakji.

Bundakji said Diab and the others in the cell were disruptive troublemakers who caused the most harm by recruiting others, especially Gadahn."


26 posted on 12/28/2004 10:52:55 PM PST by Susannah (www.AmericasSecretWar.com)
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To: calcowgirl

Yes. That is an older mosque in Garden Grove. It is muslim but largely non arab Sunnis. The mosque in Anaheim is Wahabi.


27 posted on 12/28/2004 11:18:57 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: NormsRevenge

Good, PUNK! Take all the rest of the trash with you when you go.


28 posted on 12/28/2004 11:23:30 PM PST by broadsword (The difference between Charles Manson and Mohammed is... exactly... WHAT?)
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