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Boggs, Sandberg Elected to Hall of Fame
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Posted on 01/04/2005 11:45:59 AM PST by Gucho

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To: JoeV1

"Truly an awesome talent"

Forgot what his eyesight was, but he once said the ball looks like a grapefruit coming in.


41 posted on 01/04/2005 1:58:52 PM PST by Gucho
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To: bikepacker67

"Jim Rice Was Robbed Again"

Rice was great player and I like to see him doing Red Sox post-game on NESN. If he was not on crutches, the Red Sox would have beat the Reds in '75. But, I think what is keeping him out of the Hall is two things: (1) he was hostile to the media (and now it is payback time); and (2) he had a very rapid decline from the All Star level to being out of baseball. I think he came in 3d for MVP in 1986 and was out of baseball by 1989 (50 games +/-). I don't agree with it - but I think that is what is going on. Go Sox!


42 posted on 01/04/2005 2:00:51 PM PST by Airborne1986
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To: Charles Henrickson

"If he could have kept it up another three, he would be a lock."

No Balco back then :)


43 posted on 01/04/2005 2:03:38 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

"Actually I am pretty sure I could strike out my mother with a golfball, but you get my idea. And God help her if she tried to bunt on me...."

:)


44 posted on 01/04/2005 2:14:57 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Gucho
No Balco back then :)

Good point. I just read yesterday that in his first 14 seasons, Barry Bonds never, not once, hit a home run of 450 feet. In his last five seasons--starting at about age 35--BALCO Barry has hit 21 dingers of 450 feet or more. Hmmmm. . . .

45 posted on 01/04/2005 2:25:03 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Junk Bonds.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

"I saw freakin' Jim Rice break a bat simply by checking his swing."

But his feats of strength spoke for themselves. He once broke a bat on a checked swing without hitting the ball, and he has reportedly had golf clubs bend in his hands on the downswing.
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/R/Rice_Jim.stm <---Check it out :)


46 posted on 01/04/2005 2:26:53 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Tigercap

Trammell and Witacker were better infielders and players than Sandburg - Happy Rhyno got in but not happy that Tram won't have a chance.


47 posted on 01/04/2005 2:29:30 PM PST by Oystir
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To: Semper Paratus

When is my hero, Ron Cey aka the Penguin, eligble?


48 posted on 01/04/2005 2:31:22 PM PST by birbear (Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses.)
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To: All

More on Jim Rice:

http://members.shaw.ca/Rice4HOF/Main_other.html


49 posted on 01/04/2005 2:32:26 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Oystir

"Trammell and Witacker were better infielders and players than Sandburg - Happy Rhyno got in but not happy that Tram won't have a chance."

I'm from MI and a Tigers fan - They were both a great double play combo for many years and good steady hitters.


50 posted on 01/04/2005 2:38:06 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Oystir
"Trammell and Witacker were better infielders and players than Sandburg"

Sandburg has the highest career fielding percentage (.989) for a second basemen in the history of baseball. He also has the most consecutive errorless games at second for both a season (90) and season (123).
51 posted on 01/04/2005 2:45:20 PM PST by TruBluKentuckian
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To: Oystir; Tigercap; Gucho
The two shortstops on the ballot, Trammell and Concepcion, both deserve to place higher than they did, although I'm not sure either is HOF worthy. And it's a shame 2b Whitaker was dropped from the ballot as quickly as he was.

But Sandberg was better than any of those guys. He truly was a five-tool player--hit for average, hit for power, run, field, and throw--he could do it all. The best all-around second baseman of his era, he redefined the position.

All time at 2b, I rate Sandberg behind Hornsby, Collins, Morgan, maybe Lajoie and Gehringer, but ahead of everyone else.

52 posted on 01/04/2005 2:53:58 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Now to get Santo in at 3b. . . .)
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To: Airborne1986
Yeah, the "accident" had a name: Margo Adams.

I remember the saying in Boston back then: "Don't blame Wade for gettin' laid." ;-).

53 posted on 01/04/2005 2:58:59 PM PST by NewsJunqui
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To: Charles Henrickson

"He truly was a five-tool player"

Yep, that is gold for votes.


54 posted on 01/04/2005 3:00:15 PM PST by Gucho
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To: Gucho

This is why I would rate Dawson ahead of Rice. Much better defensive outfielder and baserunner.


55 posted on 01/04/2005 3:01:49 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Plus, maintained quality for a longer time.)
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To: Gucho

Good

Now all they have to do is let Donnie Baseball(Mattingly, for those of you who don't know the nickname) in, and all will be fine.

He deserves it.

Lifetime BA- .307

If his back hadn't gone out it would have been a lot higher.

1984- .343
1985- .324
1986- .352
1987- .327
1988- .311
1989- .303

Also one of the finest first basemen of all time.

Lifetime fielding percentage = .996

9 gold gloves in 10 years.

In the only postseason action he ever saw, in 1995, against Seattle, he batted .417.

Also a 6-time All-Star.

Mattingly deserves Hall induction, just as much as Gossage and Sutter do.

I can't believe he only got 11% of votes this year.

His fielding was almost as good as Sandberg's and his career batting was better. He was also an MVP like Sandberg.


56 posted on 01/07/2005 2:33:19 AM PST by PokerGod
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To: PokerGod

I'll say one stat again.

Lifetime fielding percentage = .996. Probably 2nd best 1B in Yankees history behind Gehrig imo.


57 posted on 01/07/2005 2:35:42 AM PST by PokerGod
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