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Putin's claims strain Israeli-Russian relations
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 11 January 2005 | JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 01/11/2005 2:10:46 PM PST by anotherview

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To: Sam the Sham

Meanwhile, in other locales, obviously including much of the Middle East, in Africa, and a number of East and SE Asian places, Jew hatred continues to build. And yet, no one with an authoritative voice calls it out, I suppose, hoping it is just "silly noise." In 1946, as the gallows snapped in Nuremberg, some said "never again." However, it was a shallow platitude. Jew hatred is here again, and this time, it is indistinguishable from a general hatred of America and the West. We are all marked by the Fourth Reich.


21 posted on 01/11/2005 3:48:16 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Jeremiah Jr

Did he really? That's hysterical. What an idiot.


22 posted on 01/11/2005 3:56:42 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: Lukasz; anotherview; lizol; Grzegorz 246; MeekOneGOP; anonymoussierra; Matthew Paul; ...
Putin further accused Israel
of financing Yuschenko

"Our policy is to always blame the running dog imperialist warmongering capitalists and their
Zionist financiers for sabotaging our untiring efforts on behalf of the oppressed workers of the world.

23 posted on 01/11/2005 4:01:03 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


24 posted on 01/11/2005 4:19:42 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: anotherview
Did it ever occur to Mr. Putin that maybe the Ukranian people got sick and tired of their corrupt government?

Perhaps that's the reason a scapegoat is needed.

25 posted on 01/11/2005 4:20:51 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: anotherview; GSlob; timeislightislife; af_vet_1981; Sam the Sham; Lukasz; youngtory; Trippin; ...
"According to the report on Channel 2"

Channel 2 is a private televison channel in Israel but it's like Debka television.

But according to Channel 2, Israel is now upgrading a sophisticated weapons system for the Chinese and has not informed the Pentagon about it. Quoting Israeli sources, Channel 2 reported Wednesday that the system, which was not identified, has been returned to Israel for repair and maintenance.

26 posted on 01/11/2005 4:32:18 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Why does Israel sell weapons to China?


27 posted on 01/11/2005 4:34:24 PM PST by youngtory (Prime Minister Dithers to all of Canada-"Have a CRAPPY NEW YEAR")
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To: youngtory

Again - this is Israel's Channel 2 news - like it is not real news - like they make stuff up and use unnamed sources - but the sheeple eat news like this up - just look here on this post. Look at them eating it up like sheep eat grass.


28 posted on 01/11/2005 4:36:55 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: SJackson

Learn to evaluate news sources - my advice to you.


29 posted on 01/11/2005 4:39:04 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
this is Israel's Channel 2 news - like it is not real news - like they make stuff up and use unnamed sources

In other words, just like CBS!

30 posted on 01/11/2005 4:42:45 PM PST by Alouette (Abu Mazen: Arafat after a shower and shave)
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To: anotherview

agent Sharon - mission is to destroy Israel


31 posted on 01/11/2005 4:47:28 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Destro

I'd like to see Israel get this Yaron character under control.

MM


32 posted on 01/11/2005 4:48:01 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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"According to the report on Channel 2"

Channel 2 is a private televison channel in Israel but it's like Debka television.

That's entertainment: It has been so long since the Press Council did anything relevant that even its false teeth have fallen out

The media has lately come in for harsh criticism for its behavior in a number of high-profile cases. One instance involved the murder of District Court Judge Adi Azar on July 19. Immediately after the killing - the first of a judge in Israel - the media began to float various and sundry rumors about the judge's private life, with some catapulted into banner headlines, as if they disclosed actual facts.

When the murder suspects were eventually arrested, it emerged that the judge's private life had absolutely nothing to do with his murder and the rumors proved to be lies.

In an interview with the press, Bilhat Azar, the judge's widow, said: "Adi was murdered twice: Once by the assassin's bullets and a second time by the vicious rumors," (Yediot Aharonot, December 2, 2004).

A second case involved the suicide of Public Works Department engineer Yitzhak Herscovitch following the airing of a defamatory report on Channel 2 news (Nov. 19, 2004). Herscovitch was accused of mismanagement involving fatal road accidents caused by poor roads.

Broadcast in the middle of the trial against Herscovitch and others, it could have affected the outcome. The next day, Herscovitch killed himself. His widow Nitza said, "They [Channel 2 News] pulled the trigger and we will not give in to them."

The most recent case involved Channel 2's investigative program Fact about the killing of a 13-year-old Palestinian girl by the IDF near an outpost in Rafah.

The company commander was subsequently indicted for illegally using his weapon. The bottom line of the report was to point an accusing finger at him and a number of his soldiers.

Perhaps not coincidentally the report was aired while legal proceedings were being held against the officer, just as in Herscovitch's case. The program infuriated Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, who described it as "a lying, tendentiously edited report," and presented examples of the fabricated evidence, such as when the soldiers in the outpost are shown seemingly celebrating after the girl was killed - using footage of a perfectly innocent party on an entirely different occasion. (The Channel 2 scumbags made up the story about an Israeli soldier and his men murdering a Palistinian girl for ratings)

Judge Azar's widow accused the media of character assassination. Engineer Herscovitch's widow accused Channel 2 News of "pulling the trigger" that killed her husband. The chief of staff accused Fact of tendentiousness, lying and fabrication of evidence.

The men suspected of murdering Azar will be punished if found guilty. Engineer Herscovitch killed himself and the company commander will be punished if found guilty.

But what about the media? If the accusations against it are true, will those responsible pay?

IN ALL three cases, the ones responsible - the editors and reporters - maintained that everything was as it should be, that the reports were carefully examined before airing or publication in accordance with accepted journalistic criteria.

Perhaps. But then again, perhaps not.

Why should we accept the editors' word at face value?

Let's see what happens in identical cases in other situations. Lets say an operational accident with fatalities occurs in the IDF. The media accuses and criticizes. The army responds that everything was proper, that everything was done by the rules. How would the media react? Would they accept the army's - or anyone else's - word at face value?

What the media would say in such a case was that everything may have been handled properly; but that is why an investigation should be held - to bring all the facts to light.

33 posted on 01/11/2005 4:49:18 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: anotherview; GSlob; timeislightislife; af_vet_1981; Sam the Sham; Lukasz; youngtory; Trippin; ...
Channel 2's lies were exposed on FreeRepublic long ago:

Cabinet slams coverage of IDF [Israeli Media Channel 2 Lies!]

Thanks to the Isralis and American Jews for their work on this for me.

34 posted on 01/11/2005 4:52:12 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Alouette

I am shocked that Channel 2's reports are even being looked at as seriously.


35 posted on 01/11/2005 4:55:47 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

In other words,
"Channel 2 has as much credibility as Dan Rather" ?


36 posted on 01/11/2005 5:00:32 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981

maybe less.


37 posted on 01/11/2005 5:03:22 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Why would Israeli media want to smear Putin?

Could it have anything to do with the fact that Jewish life in the FSU is thriving as never before?

Could it have anything to do with the fact that more Russian Jews prefer to live in Germany?

Just tangential to this topic, I read last week in a Canadian Jewish newspaper that Bloc Québécois leader Richard Marceau has become un vrai ami to the Jewish people, pourqois? I think he craves 600,000 French-speaking Jews to come and settle in Quebec.

38 posted on 01/11/2005 5:05:04 PM PST by Alouette (Abu Mazen: Arafat after a shower and shave)
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To: Destro
Learn to evaluate news sources - my advice to you.

What news source? I didn't post the article, but the Jerusalem Post is credible, I would have if I saw it.

39 posted on 01/11/2005 5:06:46 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson

Sadly the source for the JPost article IS NOT credible.


40 posted on 01/11/2005 5:08:31 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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