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A MYSTERY IN THE SKIES (Michelle Malkin tells of a foiled airline terror plot)
Michelle Malkin's Blog ^ | January 14, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 01/15/2005 3:34:16 AM PST by Stoat

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To: SpyGuy

Amen!
Whether it's called "racial profiling, criminal profiling, or behavioral profiling" it's a valuable tool in fighting crime...that's why so many leftist loonies are so much against it.....it works!


41 posted on 01/15/2005 4:38:44 AM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Gettin' a PhD at FR...(PrettyHard on Democrats))
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To: durasell

There are a few people at this site who are enraged if you don't agree and then throw out the infamous DU label. And notice they didn't read the article and realize that the author herself questioned whether the story was true or not.


42 posted on 01/15/2005 4:40:17 AM PST by lindor (If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?)
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To: Stoat

"Arm the pilots, arm the cabin crew, arm law-abiding citizens. I will be the first in line to buy tickets on such an airline."

Oh God. I'm so going to get shot to death the next time I sneeze in a plane. Does anyone have a Greyhound ticket I can borrow?


43 posted on 01/15/2005 4:42:50 AM PST by batenkaitos
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To: Stoat

I knew a “Ricky”, and these days who knows?


44 posted on 01/15/2005 4:43:55 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: batenkaitos
I think the vital factor in doing stuff like this is to conduct such things in as dignified and polite a manner as possible--I'm a little (okay, I'll be honest...very!) bitter because of the manner in which I was treated during that incident. The staff was incredibly rude, refused to answer my questions, and pretty much left me to clean up the mess they made after emptying out my bags, with nary an apology or offer to help figure out my new flight plans.

The airport security needs to get off of their dead asses and onto their dying feet. If they'd search more thoroughly in the beginning it would greatly reduce this kind of thing. They shouldn't have been rude like that. Once the cavity search yielded them nothing they should have apologized for the delay and helped you get on your way.
45 posted on 01/15/2005 4:44:20 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: Stoat

Yes, I did read that excerpt... I am not saying that razor blades haven't been found and I'm not saying that they won't injure when used as a weapon, what I am saying is that the passengers are going to fight to the finish THIS TIME (in otherwords; the terrorists are bringing a knife to a gun fight).

I realize that isn't the guist of your post...

Is testing by America's enemies, of our aviation security systems/operations underway ? Likely...

Is the blog/blogger a bearer of truth... ah... honestly, I don't know.


46 posted on 01/15/2005 4:46:26 AM PST by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: Stoat
uhhhhh.sorry, it looks like to me that this story again illustrates the failure of the TSA.

Why this is being shown as a positive reflects an effort of the media to polish the failures of the TSA...once again.

47 posted on 01/15/2005 4:52:44 AM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: Jaysun

"Once the cavity search yielded them nothing..."

God, I'm never going to stop hearing about that one.


48 posted on 01/15/2005 4:53:06 AM PST by batenkaitos
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To: batenkaitos
 
"Arm the pilots, arm the cabin crew, arm law-abiding citizens. I will be the first in line to buy tickets on such an airline."

Oh God. I'm so going to get shot to death the next time I sneeze in a plane. Does anyone have a Greyhound ticket I can borrow?

The last time I checked, sneezing hasn't been linked to being an Islamofascist intent on slicing a stewardess' throat and flying planes into buildings.  Don't worry...legally armed citizens are usually among the nicest and most law-abiding folks that you might care to meet, and they take the responsibilities of gun ownership extremely seriously.

As to Greyhound, please consider that on a bus you are also dealing with a closed, metal container with people who are going to be screened far more loosely than airline passengers, which, like an airplane you can also not escape from when it's in motion.  Furthermore, you have only ONE driver and no stewardesses.  The bus driver is also NOT behind a solid door and is easily available for victimization....which happens frequently.

It seems to me that a bus would be a far easier hijacking target than an airplane....it also is far easier to drive.

As for myself, I prefer the freedom and grandeur of the Great American Highway.  Any Islamofascist carjacker (or any other sort) will be dealt with swiftly and decisively.  :-)

49 posted on 01/15/2005 4:54:46 AM PST by Stoat
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To: lindor; durasell
There are a few people at this site who are enraged if you don't agree and then throw out the infamous DU label. And notice they didn't read the article and realize that the author herself questioned whether the story was true or not.

They didn't read the article??? Who is "they". That, my friend, is gossip... and inflammatory.

I normally do not refer others to DU (I have only visited one time, and decided it was too fruity, for me...), but in your case...

I responded to the post, which I read as mocking a serious problem, and poo-pooing the articles writer. What's your purpose?

50 posted on 01/15/2005 4:56:31 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: Khurkris
uhhhhh.sorry, it looks like to me that this story again illustrates the failure of the TSA.

Why this is being shown as a positive reflects an effort of the media to polish the failures of the TSA...once again.
 

Sorry?  No need for that...I agree completely.

51 posted on 01/15/2005 4:56:57 AM PST by Stoat
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To: batenkaitos
"Once the cavity search yielded them nothing..."

God, I'm never going to stop hearing about that one.


You already know that they've got an extra eye on you, and another cavity search is likely. So you should have a little fun with it next time. Maybe hide a couple of toy cars up there or something.
52 posted on 01/15/2005 4:57:51 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: lindor
Wasn't there a Dr. Bob character on television?

Yes. Dr. Bob (Rowlf), Nurse Piggy, and Nurse Janice were all Muppets staffing the Sesame Street Veterinarian's Hospital.

Color me "skeptical". Maybe "Dr. Bob" here is a psychiatrist. Or a patient.

53 posted on 01/15/2005 5:00:28 AM PST by Sooth2222
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To: SpyGuy
" It's "criminal profiling."

Excellent distinction and one which everyone should keep in mind when the inevitable critics of sensible security procedures emerge with their shouts of "Racism".

54 posted on 01/15/2005 5:01:06 AM PST by drt1
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To: freepersup
Is the blog/blogger a bearer of truth... ah... honestly, I don't know.

As Michelle Malkin herself points out in the story, she isn't claiming it to be definitively true but it's entirely plausible, has substantiated precedent and is sourced FAR better than many that have graced the front pages of the New York Times.  She's merely putting the information out there and asking for corroboration, which is something that many other 'reporters' don't seem terribly interested in doing.

I only view it as something worth reading and considering.  If I run across another well-sourced article debunking this one then I'll post it in this thread as well.

55 posted on 01/15/2005 5:03:38 AM PST by Stoat
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To: pageonetoo; durasell
Sorry to say this, but I had the same thoughts as Durasell. Dr. Bob's blog reads like a vaguely familiar urban legend. I'm not saying it didn't happen or couldn't happen but I'm not about to accept the truth of what amounts to double hearsay when Ms. Malkin cannot even verify the accuracy of the blog.

Here's what I find most suspicious (in addition to the vaguely familiar ring): Dr. Bob leaves out details like the date, airport, airline, and flight, apparently to protect the identity of his source, who is supposedly an air marshal assigned to that flight. I suspect, however, that if the incident is true, it is not a routine occurrence and therefore, TSA would need about thirty seconds to identify the blabbermouth. I also note that Ms. Malkin wrote about the incident not in her syndicated column, but in her own blog, which suggests to me that she has a healthy degree of skepticism.

BTW, I've been a member of FR almost as long as you, and I have thousands of posts to prove that I belong here, so please don't accuse me of being a DU sympathizer just because I disagree with you.

56 posted on 01/15/2005 5:03:44 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Stoat
After the repeat security screening, the passengers reboarded -- all except the five Middle Eastern men, who were nowhere to be found. The flight proceeded to its destination uneventfully.

So whatever happened to those five? We need to know the rest of the story.

57 posted on 01/15/2005 5:04:39 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
So whatever happened to those five? We need to know the rest of the story.

I'm beginning to think that the story is (cough) bullsh*t.
58 posted on 01/15/2005 5:05:58 AM PST by Jaysun (DEMOCRATS: "We need to be more effective at fooling people.")
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To: jazzlite

Bump


59 posted on 01/15/2005 5:07:27 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: Stoat

Yeah, but at least people don't get sucked out of the window if a bullet pierces a Greyhound window

Oh wait, I was thinking of a James Bond movie.

Anyway, I'm pretty much against anyone but an air marshall having guns on a plane. I mean, hell, everyone's already dealing with fearing terrorists/crappy peanuts/crying babies/smelly toilets/coffee nerves on the flight. It'd be mere seconds before someone got killed for putting their seat too far back. Heh.


60 posted on 01/15/2005 5:07:32 AM PST by batenkaitos
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