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A Way To Eliminate Payrolls

Posted on 03/10/2005 7:23:53 AM PST by TheNightFly

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21 posted on 03/10/2005 8:01:04 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: TheNightFly
Because business don't have employers, they are employers.

Have you ever owned a business?

I have, and do now. I am an employee of my own business. Companies pay my business for services that I render and my business pays me.

Companies, although they don't pay payroll taxes on my services, still have to pay for them, corp to corp. My business pays me the lowest wage possible to cut back on payroll taxes-- the remainder in dividends.

I can't just suddenly declare myself to be a business, though. If I did, I would find myself as Martha Stewart's cell-mate.

22 posted on 03/10/2005 8:03:28 AM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: TheNightFly; Lazamataz
Awesome! Someone actually asked an intelligent question! (lol)

Yes. Laz is one of our most intelligent posters, that's fer sure.

He's also one of our most sober and serious. He NEVER fools around!

Just wanted to make sure you knew that...

23 posted on 03/10/2005 8:03:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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24 posted on 03/10/2005 8:04:34 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Reading is fundamental. Comprehension is optional.)
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To: TheNightFly

Uuunnnggghhh. Must have more coffee..... This does not compute...


25 posted on 03/10/2005 8:04:36 AM PST by BreitbartSentMe
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To: TheNightFly

Who pays for the overhead to keep track of all these little banks and mini-loans?


26 posted on 03/10/2005 8:04:47 AM PST by Flyer (That flight attendant is not missing playing below the bridge at this exact moment)
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To: TheNightFly
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I shall keep you under my bed where you can spawn ideas for ever and ever... or for a week or two while you ripen!

27 posted on 03/10/2005 8:07:12 AM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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To: Lazamataz

Look at it from the employers point of view. The majority of you companies overhead consists of having to constantly "deposit" revenue into payroll.

In contrast, you would only need to deposit a fixed sum of funds into your employees virtual bank. That takes care of them and eliminates your payroll.

From the employees point of view, they will still have all the purchasing power they used to have with a steady income. However, remember the part about people extending credit to themselves to convert their credit potential into income? People could directly control how much income taxes they owe by managing how much credit they extend to themselves.


28 posted on 03/10/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by TheNightFly
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To: Egon

Wrong! The Federal Reserve answers to Congress.


29 posted on 03/10/2005 8:09:03 AM PST by TheNightFly
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To: TheNightFly
Every home should have one:


30 posted on 03/10/2005 8:10:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: EternalVigilance
,i>He NEVER fools around!

Hahahaha! Very clever for so early in the morning, at least on the West Coast.

31 posted on 03/10/2005 8:11:08 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Looking for a new tagline........old one annoyed me)
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To: Egon
I am an employee of my own business.

I fired myself two years ago. I caught myself sleeping with the owner's wife.

32 posted on 03/10/2005 8:12:23 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Bekaa to the future!)
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To: Egon

Virtual banks wouldn't eliminate regular public banks. You can always go to a regular bank and convert some or all of your credit into cash or deposit it into a regular bank account.


33 posted on 03/10/2005 8:12:54 AM PST by TheNightFly
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To: Egon

Hay, this idea is only intended to eliminate payrolls, not create business welfare.


34 posted on 03/10/2005 8:14:46 AM PST by TheNightFly
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However, remember the part about people extending credit to themselves to convert their credit potential into income? People could directly control how much income taxes they owe by managing how much credit they extend to themselves.

Not a chance. The IRS would so crawl all over this. Remember 'imputed income'? That was the money you were taxed on if a BENEFIT exceeded the normative amount as defined by the IRS.

The IRS would simply declare the credit offered by the employer as a benefit, attach an imputed income tax to it, and the entire amount would still end up being taxed.

Okay, so how about the next advantage of this system? ;^)

35 posted on 03/10/2005 8:15:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: TheNightFly

interesting.

I think it would only work if cash is eliminated.


36 posted on 03/10/2005 8:15:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: EternalVigilance
OOOOOoooooooo....how vigilant of you to notice!

pancake
37 posted on 03/10/2005 8:15:56 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: TheNightFly

I supposed you'd like us all to go back to living in caves, too.


38 posted on 03/10/2005 8:16:33 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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39 posted on 03/10/2005 8:17:29 AM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: Lazamataz
Laz, he explained it in excruciatingly minute detail:

Reducing overhead would help small business a lot.

Does he need to draw you a picture? Sheesh!

40 posted on 03/10/2005 8:17:30 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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