Cleopatra seduced the Romans with her irresistible . . . mind

The Times (U.K.) ^ | March 14, 2005 | Ben Hoyle

[Lijahsbubbe]

[The Great Yazoo]

Maybe he just plain and simple Loved her eh?

Either that or her thong underwear that she wore around the Oval Office while he was awaiting intellectual inspiration to socialize health care from his co-Emperor. You know how powerful men can be!

[FYREDEUS]

Hey dont dismiss the power of the Thong...a smart woman in a thong can be a wonderful thing...especially if she's had a Belgian bikini-wax [which I'm told is a Brazilian with a Belgian waffle afterwards as reward] LOL

Somehow I think Caesar and Cleopatra 'Part Deux' would have been more likely to have been invading Iraq together than socializing health care for the Plebians lol...;-)...

Next up reclaiming Alexanders empire then on to China...;-)...

[texasflower]

Interesting link.

[shibumi]

"You like to dance on the hip hop spots
And you cruise to grooves to connect the dots
Not just urban she like the pop
'Cause she was Livin' La Vida Loca
She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck
Thighs like what, what, what
Baby move your butt, butt, butt
I think i'll sing it again
She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck
Thighs like what, what, what
All night long
Let me see that thong......."


What has once been so eloquently put, cannot be restated.

[Jimmy Valentine]

"Did he mention that Cleopatra was black?"

She may or may not have been. The first Ptolomey was the half brother of Alexander the Great, a Macedonian. Macedonians would tend to look like northern Greeks or Yugoslavians, being fair skinned and tending to blond hair and blue eyes (like Alexander).

The Ptolomeic Dynasty was inbred as they wished to keep their line "pure" which is why by the time they got down to Cleopatra they were degenerate, physically.

So, maybe she was black, but most likely not. Probably looked liked Anwar Sadat's wife, a light skinned mixture.

Regards,

[The Great Yazoo]

Then again, she may have been African-American like real saxophonist reported in Post #15, above. As homosexual historians (and Oliver Stone) have assured us, Alexander III of Macedon was gay; so it's not too far-fetched to consider that the great-great-great-great granddaughter of one of Alexander's lieutenants would have sprung in full from the union of two lesbians. Once you take that leap, there's nowhere that horse won't go!

[Lazamataz]

So Julius Caesar and Mark Antony were seduced by her for her mind? Yeah, I really believe that. Even 2,000 years ago, things weren't that different.

You should have seen her Frontal Lobes.

[speedy]

Are you sure those aren't Susan B. Anthony dollars? Or maybe Susan B. Anthony is a lineal descendant of Cleopatra and Mark Antony.

[speedy]

Why do you have difficulty believing Caesar would be attracted to a beautiful mind? A woman with a great mind is a most wondrously attractive thing :-).

I agree that a great mind has its attractions. It's just that when guys like Caesar start cheating on their wives, it's usually with someone who looks more like an aerobics instructor than like Madame Curie.

[speedy]

I'll bet Julius got an eyefull of those.

[speedy]

I'll bet Julius got an eyefull of those.

[7thson]

Was it an old crusty, black business suit? 8-)

[7thson]

That looks like a turkey on her head.

[laredo44]

From what I've read, Cleopatra was the Monica Lewinsky of her day. She popularized the use of lipstick which was originally used by Egyptian prostitutes who specialized in oral sex.

[Cincinatus]

This article misses the real point of both Caesar's and Antony's dalliance with Cleopatra -- Egypt was the breadbasket of the ancient world, supplying most of the grain for the eastern Mediterranean and even the whole basin during crop failures in northern Africa. Roman strongmen who controlled the grain supply controlled the Roman mob. If you controlled the mob, you controlled the state. Hence, gain Egypt and you gain the Roman world. Cleopatra was Egypt. Q.E.D.

[yarddog]

Actually, Black was one of the things Cleopatra almost certainly was not.

As you say she was a descendent of the Ptolomies. I think only one of her close ancestors is not known. That gives people the chance to say he could have been Egyptian, therefore Black.

Of course the fact that the Egyptians were not Black at all seems to make no difference. BTW, Ramses the Great had red, wavy hair. This is not a guess, it is known for certain.

Cleopatra did have one ancestor who was what we would call Iraqi now.

[Redleg Duke]

Yeah, and they read Playboy for the intellectual articles.

[speedy]

Somebody told me they have pictures in there now.

[rintense]

No, I think she wielded tremendous power. She seduced with her feminine ways, but kept Caesar and Antony with her strategic mind. Beauty and brains. By today's standards, she be a conservative. ;).