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Deal Aims To Prevent Web Cigarette Sales
Business Week Online ^ | March 17, 2005 | AP

Posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:33 AM PST by cgbg

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To: Raycpa
Both are legal but one sale is designed for tax cheats.

You just haven't been affected so far. If government placed an outrageous tax on one of your "must have" items, you'd probably be looking for a way to cheat too.

I'm furious. They found a way to gouge a minority of citizens in order to get more money to waste on bigger government. They didn't use the money for medical care and education, they just defrauded us and dropped the loot into the general fund.

I wish all smokers could simultaneously quit for just one month. It would shock the hell out of those money-grubbing bastards!

21 posted on 03/18/2005 7:08:15 AM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Max in Utah
I wish all smokers could simultaneously quit for just one month. It would shock the hell out of those money-grubbing bastards!

That is the problem with addiction. Addiction makes one a slave. Slaves work their master. Tobacco becomes the master and the addict is willing to part with everything he has in order to please his master.

The only reason government can control the smokers pocketbook is because the smoker cherishes his tobacco more than his freedom.

22 posted on 03/18/2005 7:13:11 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: cgbg
It is clear that the states are going after the Post Office and other carriers, credit cards, and the vendors themselves in an all-out effort to close the loopholes.

Welcome to the New Mafia. Terrorists purchase cigs in a state with low taxes, and resell them in another state with higher taxes.

Soon tobacco will become illegal, like marijuana, and we'll start seeing shootouts and speakeasys again.

23 posted on 03/18/2005 7:20:43 AM PST by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: Raycpa
That is the problem with addiction. Addiction makes one a slave.

Point conceded.

But I'm curious... were you ever a smoker?

24 posted on 03/18/2005 7:22:13 AM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Raycpa

Relative risk is not statistically significant until it exceeds 2.0, feel free to continue to use your table tho'.


25 posted on 03/18/2005 7:23:08 AM PST by CSM
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To: Max in Utah

General Funds are my pet peeve. States that promise gambling money going to education usually put it in General Fund and we all know how that works.


26 posted on 03/18/2005 7:28:06 AM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: daybreakcoming
...we all know how that works.

Yeah, they urinate it away along with the rest of the money.

27 posted on 03/18/2005 7:30:27 AM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: Raycpa

The RR's don't reach 2 and are thus statistically insignificant.


28 posted on 03/18/2005 7:33:13 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: CSM

I wonder how this will effect other tobacco products..........the only thing ever mentioned is cigarettes.


29 posted on 03/18/2005 7:35:01 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Raycpa
depends on the person...

i smoked two packs of Lucky's a day and that's about as hooked as you can get.

but i said that the day they hit $1.00 a pack... i was going to quit. they did so i did.

30 posted on 03/18/2005 7:51:15 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Gabz

I say they need to tax the heck out of all products containing nicotine! Its for the chillllrrrruuuunnn after all!


31 posted on 03/18/2005 8:11:29 AM PST by CSM
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To: CSM

Yup..........including tomatoes and eggplant and other fruits and veggies of the nightshade family.


32 posted on 03/18/2005 8:14:35 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Raycpa
addiction

I bet you are "addicted" to food, clothes, housing, transportation.

First they come for the smokers.

Then they come for you. :-(
33 posted on 03/18/2005 8:27:44 AM PST by cgbg (Fire the Trustees of the Social Security Trust Fund with no money in it!)
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To: Gabz

Thanks for providing the punch line. I was wondering if someone would catch it and should have known you'd be on the ball.


34 posted on 03/18/2005 8:37:22 AM PST by CSM
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To: CSM

For some reason that is one of my favorite comebacks regarding the evil nicotine!!!!


35 posted on 03/18/2005 8:45:29 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Raycpa
Both are legal but one sale is designed for tax cheats.

Both are also considered bad habits with harmful consequences of use.
If this is the way to deal with tobacco then why don't we have sky high taxes on porn?

Next; the firearms public safety/health problem.

36 posted on 03/18/2005 9:14:47 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Raycpa
Both are legal but one sale is designed for tax cheats.

All must help the thieves steal the money,,otherwise, they are the dreaded "tax cheats".

37 posted on 03/18/2005 9:24:14 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Raycpa

What is the point of that chart?


38 posted on 03/18/2005 9:25:54 AM PST by Protagoras (If the Republican Party enacts a new tax they will be out of power for at least a generation)
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To: Chode
i said that the day they hit $1.00 a pack... i was going to quit.

hahaha... I used to say that, except that is was "when a carton got to $7.00".

Well, it got to $7, then $9, $12.50, $18.50, $22.50, $27.50.

That was just too much. Two years ago, I finished off the remainder of a pack, and have not smoked since.

Up until the moment (9:30 a.m.) that day, January 27, 2003 [sticks in my mind -- lol], I half-heartedly tried to quit a few times over the last 38 years. Once I went a whole 24 hours. Substituted a pipe for the cig; that worked, except that I was lighting up the pipe 10 times a day. Three years ago, I went a whole week -- with only 1 cig per day. But when I made the decision two years ago, I stuck with it. It wasn't so bad. I had 3 bad cravings a day; and they only lasted about 10 seconds.
39 posted on 03/18/2005 9:39:22 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Max in Utah

Yep.


40 posted on 03/18/2005 9:42:24 AM PST by Raycpa
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