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CO: Smoking ban may be snuffed
DenverPost.com ^ | 3-23-05 | Mark P. Couch

Posted on 03/23/2005 4:32:08 AM PST by SheLion

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To: SheLion
Do you actually think any of us CARE what your opinion's are?

I think you might care what the restaurants think in that smokers claim they are sticking up for them.

21 posted on 03/23/2005 5:20:04 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: whereasandsoforth
I think you misunderstood. The association is for the ban. The ban would drive moms & pops out of business. Big chains would benefit.

This is how capitalism works. Survival of the fitest.

22 posted on 03/23/2005 5:22:30 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: SheLion

A primary tenet of fascism is state control of private property.


23 posted on 03/23/2005 5:39:07 AM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: CSM

"Sounds like it is worth the support of all governments."

Oooops, should read:

"Sounds like it is worth the support of all conservatives!"


24 posted on 03/23/2005 5:48:26 AM PST by CSM
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To: Raycpa

"This is how capitalism works."

Please enlighten us as to your definition of capitalism. I looked it up in several references and I still can't find any definition that includes government controlling the market.


25 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:36 AM PST by CSM
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To: Raycpa
You're such a sophist. You're not fooling anybody, minnie.

Now go back to the sandbox and leave the adults alone.

26 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:50 AM PST by metesky ("Maine: Last to know; First to go.")
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To: metesky

Gosh. I just wonder how many of those Big Restaurant Chains are owned by RJR, Philip Morris, et al. As you said (and so did my old sergeant): Follow the money. I'd look into it more, except I live in Japan, where smokes are about $2.80 a pack. Also, I've been drinking (without having to first check with the State to see if it's okay), and I'm watching "Blade Runner" on DVD now.

I lived in Colorado for a bit. There's a LOT of lefties living up in those hills. Got in an argument with my boss about whether or not taxes were my money or government's money, and got into a screaming match with Alvin Toffler in the laundromat, so I decided to move back to Seattle.

It says something about Colorado that I considered SEATTLE to be a more rational place.


27 posted on 03/23/2005 5:57:10 AM PST by Father Jack (Confused, Stupid, and Documented)
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To: CSM
Read about JP Morgan and how he used the government for his businesses. Extract

Many people likened J.P. Morgan, Jay Gould, and other business leaders to the "robber barons" of the Middle Ages, who set up barriers across rivers and forced boats to pay a toll in order to navigate the waterways. A U.S. Senator described Morgan as a "thick-necked financial bully, drunk with wealth and power, [who] bawls his orders to stock markets, Directors, courts, Governments, and Nations."

This may be news, but business uses government all the time to compete. Control of government is part of business and is part of competition.

Source

28 posted on 03/23/2005 6:21:30 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

These men weren't free market capitalists. Corporate America is as big a bastian of socialism as academia. Big business welcomes the taxation, regulation and litigation that we conservatives abhor because their smaller-company competition can't afford it as easily as they can. The only people who advocate using the government to crush their competition or control the marketplace are democrats. And they sure aren't capitalists.


29 posted on 03/23/2005 6:39:05 AM PST by MNnice
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To: SheLion
Hooray for the conservatives in Colorado.
At least there are some left with the cajones to stand up for the rights of business owners.
30 posted on 03/23/2005 6:45:33 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe; All

"The role of government is not to create wealth.
The role of government is to create an environment
in which the
entrepreneur or small business or
dreamer can flourish.
  And that starts with rule of law,
respect of private property, less regulatory burdens on the
entrepreneur, open banking laws so that all people
have access to capital, and good tax policy."

President George W. Bush
St. Petersburg University,
St. Petersburg, Russia
May 25, 2002

31 posted on 03/23/2005 7:09:52 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: MNnice

JP Morgan invented capitalism.


32 posted on 03/23/2005 8:31:20 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: SheLion

Sorry so long to reply. Thanks for the ping, and.....WOOOOO-HOOO!!!!


33 posted on 03/24/2005 10:42:32 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion

BTW, Any idea who voted FOR, and who SUPPORTED this insanity? I have a whole batch of blank magnetic paper ready for some fresh, shiny bumper stickers to be printed up.


34 posted on 03/24/2005 10:45:10 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Father Jack

Most of this crap is coming from, "Animal Guardian" Boulder county.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 10:48:55 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg
BTW, Any idea who voted FOR, and who SUPPORTED this insanity? I have a whole batch of blank magnetic paper ready for some fresh, shiny bumper stickers to be printed up.

I'm not sure Randall. I think you can go to the state of Colorado and get the roll count for this vote. I haven't taken the time to do that. But that is one way a person could find out the yea's and nay's.

36 posted on 03/25/2005 4:42:42 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Raycpa
This is how capitalism works. Survival of the fitest.

If you measure fitness by who's got the best lawyers and lobbyists and most political influence rather than the best products or ideas.

37 posted on 03/25/2005 4:55:06 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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