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A boom of U.S. 'war babies' in Europe
Stars & Stripes ^ | 12Apr05 | Steve Mraz

Posted on 04/13/2005 8:29:09 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

by focusing on dependants it misses the obvious mark. Active duty females getting pregnant to either get out of combat duty or avoid deployment all together. Worthless !


21 posted on 04/13/2005 9:12:09 AM PDT by superfries
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To: superfries
I had no idea what they were going to operate on and had to get out of bed and call the Red Cross to get an interpreter to find out what they thought they were going to do to me. lol

Oh bless your heart!! I guess they were lucky. The Doctor even dropped the attempt to make them speak German. He said it was a different experience. What was funny was his comment "Mom they still use all glass IV's over here!".

22 posted on 04/13/2005 9:13:31 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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I think I remember labor and delivery in a German hospital being sort of like a throw back to the 60's. Mom's stayed in the hospital after delivery for 4 or 5 days.....lounging around and eating bonbons....:>)


23 posted on 04/13/2005 9:13:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: armymarinemom

When I was young army brat in Germany, it wasn't uncommon for Americans to go to German hospitals for serious emergency procedures. Our tiny post only had a small clinic (we usually had to go to bigger posts in other cities for appointments). I remember when a friend broke his femur in a football tackle, he was laid out in a German hospital for weeks.


24 posted on 04/13/2005 9:16:18 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: superfries

We used to have that as a problem when we were planning on a long deployment. The usual method was to turn up pregnant about 60 days before deployment.

On the other hand, these are young women, and some of them are gonna get pregnant as part of being married and wanting a home life. In that regard, it's no different an issue than allowing young male soldiers to be married. Something that also used to be frowned on.

But with these units like the 1AD, I was at 1AD Hq in '96 when they were in Bosnia. They came home just in time to go to Kosovo for a couple rotations in 98 and 2000. Then this Iraq thing came up in 2002 and they deployed. Then they returned in what...2004. Now they're going back in 2006.

That's a fully deployed 10 year period. Some of these young ladies would NEVER have a good time to have a family if they based it on deployment schedules.

Given THIS army, that wouldn't be fair.

But, I'm old school. I always preferred the old WAC organizational ideas.


25 posted on 04/13/2005 9:19:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kingattax
My brother was born in 1954 in an Army hospital in Stuttgart, Germany. I understand that he has dual citizenship, and is considered to be a naturalized American citizen. Guess he can't be president!

Carolyn

26 posted on 04/13/2005 9:29:01 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: xzins
Nearly 310 pregnant women who are mainly Army 1st Armored Division spouses or active-duty soldiers in Baumholder, Germany.

Is it me, or is it weird to be taking orders from pregnant officer?

27 posted on 04/13/2005 9:35:06 AM PDT by Liberator
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To: xzins
Yea.... babies!!!!!
28 posted on 04/13/2005 9:40:04 AM PDT by monday
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To: Liberator

It's not just you.

Pregnant army officers (and enlisted, too, but especially officers) always struck me as being in an inappropriate setting.


29 posted on 04/13/2005 9:41:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kingattax
...does anyone know if in German law a baby automatically become a German citizen simply by virtue of being born on German soil ?

Well..Yes, sorta. You can become a Foriegn Born Natural Citizen....born in Naha City, Japan.

30 posted on 04/13/2005 9:43:07 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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..and is naturalized American citizen. Guess he can't be president!

Please, See post #30. :^)

31 posted on 04/13/2005 9:50:18 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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..Foriegn = Foreign

Good!, Got to it before the spell-checker police found it. :^)

32 posted on 04/13/2005 9:53:44 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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Thanks! He's almost ready for retirement now -- many years as a fire marshal for a sizable New England city -- so I don't think he's too concerned about it --

Carolyn

33 posted on 04/13/2005 9:55:24 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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Why is it weird to be taking orders from pregnant officer, assuming the officer is already assgned to other than combat duty? Is it weird to have pregnant teachers, principals, doctors, nurses, ministers, politicians, or other positions of authority?


34 posted on 04/13/2005 9:56:10 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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It's weird because 24 hours a day the army has this "hard as nails" personna.

It's hard for a pregnant mom to be that. They're not viewed that way.....nor are teachers, principals, doctors, nurses, ministers, politicians, etc.

The combat duty restriction is all window dressing. Combat support and combat service support have a high probability of battlefield engagement...as has been proven in Iraq.


35 posted on 04/13/2005 10:02:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kingattax

Both my children where born in Nuremberg. They were issued a German birth certificate after the birth from the city of Nuremberg and then later one from the American Consulate in Munich


36 posted on 04/13/2005 10:24:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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If both your parents are native Americans than your brother can not have a dual citizenship. He is an American just like you are


37 posted on 04/13/2005 10:30:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Wouldn't they have done that before the first deployment instead of waiting for a possible second deployment?


38 posted on 04/13/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by em2vn
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If both your parents are native Americans than your brother can not have a dual citizenship.

If your're born (in the 50s) in a U.S. Military Hospital..I was born in a civilian one, got U.S. Naturalization papers @ young age in Honolulu, HA.

39 posted on 04/13/2005 10:54:51 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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"If both your parents are native Americans than your brother can not have a dual citizenship. He is an American just like you are"

Source or documentation? I'm just repeating what my mother learned and I have no reason to think it's wrong.

Carolyn

40 posted on 04/13/2005 11:16:31 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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