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A boom of U.S. 'war babies' in Europe
Stars & Stripes ^ | 12Apr05 | Steve Mraz

Posted on 04/13/2005 8:29:09 AM PDT by xzins

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To: skinkinthegrass

You are right I think. Both my children where born in a military hospital


41 posted on 04/13/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: em2vn
"Wouldn't they have done that before the first deployment instead of waiting for a possible second deployment?"

You'd think so. And, I think that a lot of the young ladies get pregnant while on deployment so as to be classified "with disability" and allowed to leave the theater.

A friend of mine ran a Navy squadron in Europe (Rota, Spain) and said that whenever there was a chance of deployment, the ladies (married or not) would get pregnant, the end result being reduced operational efficiency. It really used to tick him off but he couldn't change things -- he had to accept females sent with various units and hope like h-ll they wouldn't bail on him when the going got tough.

He tells the story when Barbara Boxer, then a punk Congresswoman, toured the base. She noticed the women in the various ground roles and commented to my friend, the senior officer, "Isn't it nice that the women can serve so many useful roles, just like men?" My buddy, twice wounded in Vietnam and no flaming liberal, replied: "Actually, whenever there's a possibility of combat or action the women get pregnant and go on disability."

He says the look on Boxer's face was priceless -- a scowl that could only come from a liberal exposed.

42 posted on 04/13/2005 2:22:11 PM PDT by tom h
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To: xzins

I should have been more specific. Women soldiers who are not married show up pregnant around deployment or during deployment.....again, worthless.


43 posted on 04/14/2005 2:29:08 PM PDT by superfries
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To: wideawake

I have a question, seems like you might know what your taking about, I am not in the military.
I am 26 year old american citizen 5 months pregnant with a german citizens baby.. My husband.
Some say I have to give birth in the united states for the baby to have dual cititenship..
BUT from the sounds of you all sounds like BABY can obtain dual citizenship from being born in germany as well.
DOES anyone REALLY know??
JENNIFER ORLEWICZ


44 posted on 04/26/2005 7:12:51 PM PDT by Jennifer Orlewicz
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To: Jennifer Orlewicz
If you are an American citizen, your child is an American citizen no matter where he is born.

If your husband is a German citizen, your child is a German citizen and, incidentally, an EU citizen as well, no matter where he is born.

Where a child is born matters only for US citizenship in cases where neither parent is a US citizen. For example, if two Mexican citizens in the United States have a child in the US, that child is an American citizen even though his parents aren't, just because he was born on American soil.

Dual citizenship is an ambiguous matter.

For example, if your child were to join the German military, he would have to renounce his US citizenship, since a US citizen generally cannot serve in a foreign military (there are rare exceptions).

Likewise, your child will have to pay US taxes no matter where he works in the world or he may have to renounce his US citizenship, because the IRS requires that all American citizens pay taxes to the US government, no matter where they live or work.

Basically, as long as your child never serves in a foreign military or works for a foreign intelligence agency or a number of other sovereignty-related issues and pays US taxes, the child will effectively be a US citizen when he is on US soil and a citizen of Germany when on German soil.

As far as Germany is concerned, the rules will follow the EU rules in the future, which may tighten.

The fact remains, no matter where your child is born, if there is any issue (a draft, an arrest for a criminal matter, a significant tax dispute) that arises that creates a conflict of jurisdiction between German authorities and US authorities, your child will have to choose one or the other citizenship and all duality will most likely be lost.

For example, if you are a German citizen and a US citizen and you run afoul of the law on US soil, if you claim German citizenship in order to avoid the consequences of US justice, you will be deported and most likely stripped of your US citizenship and passport.

Dual citizenship lasts only until you piss one government off.

45 posted on 04/26/2005 7:53:36 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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