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AUCTIONED HOST TAKEN OFF EBAY AND HANDED OVER TO DIOCESE
Spirit Daily ^ | April 16, 2005 | Mike Brown

Posted on 04/16/2005 9:03:04 AM PDT by NYer

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To: Conservative til I die

Well, I'm glad they did... once they understood what it meant! OTOH, my mom did not appreciate her "little girl" not receiving communion in the Catholic church, based on the fact that I had been baptized and brought up Catholic. But I did not believe in transubstantiation and I was no longer a member of the Catholic church, so knowing what they believed, I did not go up for communion. They respected our beliefs and I respected theirs, what's wrong with that?


81 posted on 04/16/2005 7:23:10 PM PDT by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: Conservative til I die

You don't ooze with Christian empathy, so why would I turn to you when my initial post wasn't directed towards you?


82 posted on 04/16/2005 7:26:19 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I've never heard it preached from the pulpit that this person in the second pew should NOT take communion.

Depending upon the denomination, many people are told not to receive either outside of church or sometimes pulled aside before receiving. This is often done by the minister or some type of church elder. Many protestants consider communion to be quite sacred even if they don't believe that it is the physical body and blood of Jesus Christ.

I wasn't listing this church or that. I was describing people as members of a church.

Either way it was an erroneous generalization about a divergent grouping that could cause people to attempt to receive communion where they shouldn't. People should always seek permission before engaging in religious rites outside of their own. It's simple courtesy.

83 posted on 04/16/2005 7:49:31 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: narses
"Catholics can take communion in Protestant churches."

They should not - it is both idolatry and blasphemous to do so.

"Idolatry"? Why? Who in a Protestant church is worshiping a chunk of bread and shot-glass of grape juice? We leave that kind of activity to our Catholic friends. 8-)

84 posted on 04/16/2005 7:52:30 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: NYer; Northern Yankee; missyme; Victoria Delsoul
Thank you, Monsignor Augustine!

Can't be said enough!

I'm thinking the seller had second thoughts and his conscious ruled.

Thank goodness...

85 posted on 04/16/2005 7:53:49 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: Ann Archy

I didn't realize only Catholics can receive the sacrament.


86 posted on 04/16/2005 7:56:28 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: narses

You do realize that you don't even know half the sins you commit in a day.

Same with me and every other Christian. We can't possibly be "absolved" of them all by talking to a priest prior to Communion.

All Scripture requires is us to discern the Lord's body rightly, which means to take the occassion damn seriously.

The man who kept the memento wafer obviously did not, and I feel he probably is drinking judgment upon himself for his loose treatment of the sacrament.

However, all that must be done is for us to discern our hearts and the Lord's body, what he did on that Cross.

Nobody can be perfect when taking part.


87 posted on 04/16/2005 8:00:45 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: iconoclast

People shouldn't take part in communion until they know what it means...


88 posted on 04/16/2005 8:02:23 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: pbear8

With all due respect, the Catholic church is not 2000 years old. Perhaps 1700 years, but there is nothing to suggest Catholic doctrine and tradition was present in the early church after the death of Christ.

It gradually evolved later.


89 posted on 04/16/2005 8:03:51 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Libertina

All my Prot church requires is that you belong to a Bible-believing church. We also have a statement about the importance of Communion so people understand what it means.


90 posted on 04/16/2005 8:05:38 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Barnacle
I was in the "Religion Section" of Borders Books a couple days ago. There were shelfs full books on wicca, witchcraft and satanism. They wouldn't be for sale if they weren't selling,

Distrubing that much is being sold.

On a positive note, these titles are available to learn about the enemy though.

So many deny that evil or satan exists. At least this stuff is being exposed.

91 posted on 04/16/2005 8:05:44 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: Ann Archy

That is a simplication. I am Presbyterian. We believe in the spiritual presence of Jesus, not the physical.

It is not merely a symbol. That is Baptist thinking.

However, we can scream all day about "this is my body" and "eat my flesh and drink my blood" and it will get us nowhere.

I will point out "do this in remembrance of me"...hardly a statement indicating a literal feast of Christ's skin, bone, joints etc. this is my body etc. are simply metaphors. It is like when you use something to stand for something else, you will tend to simply say "blank is blank," not "blank is the complete and full representation of blank," but that is what you mean.


92 posted on 04/16/2005 8:11:52 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Conservative til I die
To do anything disrespectful to it is to disrespect Christ. You'd think that EBay would recognize that.

I suspect eBay is well aware that it offends your beliefs. Whether it actually disrepects Christ is still open to interpretation.

Many Christians believe Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ disrespects Christ. Therefore, perhaps eBay should consider a ban on its sale, too.

93 posted on 04/16/2005 8:16:26 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: narses

You need to bone up on the meaning of metaphors and symbolism.

This is my body doesn't mean it was literally his body.

He used that phraseology when breaking the bread to symbolize.


94 posted on 04/16/2005 8:20:45 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: RansomOttawa
Idolatry"? Why? Who in a Protestant church is worshiping a chunk of bread and shot-glass of grape juice? We leave that kind of activity to our Catholic friends. 8-)

Truly a dispicable comment.

95 posted on 04/16/2005 8:20:51 PM PDT by Lady In Blue ( President 'SEABISCUIT' AKA George W Bush)
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To: CouncilofTrent

Is the church going to stop him if he goes to the RCC for mass?

Maybe I will walk up to my local Catholic church and take part.

It isn't like they are going to know I am Protestant.

What are they going to do, throw me out?

I am a believer in Jesus Christ. I have a right to communion, even though when I arrive, I will know your version to be incorrect Biblically.


96 posted on 04/16/2005 8:24:36 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Conservative til I die

I find it funny that you think Catholics are the only people in which bigotry is allowed.

Your attacks on Protestants on this very thread show that to not be true. Prots can be assailed just as much.

America has a history of being against your church though, largely because your church was against America for most of our history.


97 posted on 04/16/2005 8:28:18 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: newgeezer

Many think the the Passion violates the second commandment, but obviously Ebay isn't banning that. :)


98 posted on 04/16/2005 8:31:07 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
I have a right to communion

Why do you think you have a "right" to Communion in a Roman Catholic church if you do not believe in RC teachings?

99 posted on 04/16/2005 8:36:37 PM PDT by katnip
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To: rwfromkansas
People shouldn't take part in communion until they know what it means...

Excellent. I think you've made the statement of the evening that all (Catholic) Christians can agree on.

A rarity these days on the FR Religion Forum... ;)

100 posted on 04/16/2005 8:37:20 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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