US Wants All Fly-Over Passenger Names

Australian Broadcasting Corporation ^ | Friday, April 22, 2005

[Ramius]

Roger that. I do agree that we can and should do better with the borders. But we have to be careful with expectations...

I think the minutemen on the few miles of Arizona border have been a reasonably successful demonstration, although all they've done is to shift the problem to some other place. If we could get 50,000 volunteers we should just deputize them and do the whole mexican border.

[LibWhacker]

Not good enough. We should demand their fingerprints, and demand that they be taken at the gate. As others have noted, the Mexican and Canadian borders are a whole 'nuther problem.

[Cobra64]

What we need is a Berlin Wall on our southern border and the attitude that if we catch you here and send you home the next time you're caught you'll be here for 25 years as our guests.

Are you going to pay the prison hotel bill which is upwards of $60,000 per inmate? Then the capital expenditures to build more prisons. Who do think pays for all of this incarceration expense, the Wizard of Oz? (shaking head - rolling eyes).

[Cobra64]

The idea has angered European, Canadian and Mexican airlines, which will be most affected.

Good. The more, the merrier. I'm fed up with these ass-breaths being "angry" about our attempts in dealing with USA national security. In a sick sort of perspective, I'd like the next terrorist attack on the Eiffel Tower. Then, maybe, Europe will wake TFU. /rant

[Route101]

...The idea has angered European, Canadian and Mexican airlines, which will be most affected....Tough dog turds, boys!

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

Yes.:-) The idea was to have the illegals face long prison sentences for repeatedly violating our law. Of course, the law currently in place is ignored so my idea has zero chance of ever being implemented.

[snowsislander]

What if other countries start demanding reciprocity? What if for every flight from every one of our carriers that flies over Europe, Africa, Asia, and Latin America, each and every political unit from Andorra to Luxembourg to Cuba to Turkmenistan to Pakistan to Cote d'Ivoire to Djibouti to Saudi Arabia to Swaziland demands a copy of all of the passenger lists? And passenger lists can change literally at the last moment with stand-bys and no-shows.

Oh well. I am sure that our generous friends in D.C. will be glad to drop a bit more recompense on the airlines to pay for such communications. Each airline will need to keep up with the office for each and every country that demands the same information, and of course, they will need staff for this, especially when flights get re-routed.

[EagleUSA]

But we have to be careful with expectations...
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I don't think it is "expecting" too much for us to expect the federal government to do it's job. You and I BOTH know that the Congress and the administration are deliberately avoiding taking any meaningful action. It is a tragedy that the people have to "pick up pitch forks" (so to speak) to defend their borders, when it is the clear Constitutional duty of the federal government. A political agenda has trumped the Constitution and the Presidential oath of office.

[fight_truth_decay]

Well, with the FBI and the CIA still not sharing information (according to Col. David Hunt), I doubt very much we could have a "international program" which would share a list of known terrorists. However, it has been suggested. But then to implement any program takes years of political crap and lobbying and then if a program in some technological sense is implemented it usually does not work (example the border surveillance technology provided by Conn.company) and is scraped. These lazy, tongue flapping, belligerent, self absorbed, mentally inept, slick career Politicians will be the death of us!