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Michigan: States hunt down online cigarette buyers
stateline.org ^ | 5-3-05 | Kathleen Hunter

Posted on 05/05/2005 6:20:00 AM PDT by SheLion

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It's the American way to shop cheap.

What about the online auctions?  And what about the sellers of any site not charging the state taxes?

When I purchase online, if the company doesn't charge for Maine State Taxes, I surely am not going to tack it on!  In fact, when I order, and if the seller doesn't make provisions to charge me for Maine Tax, there is NO space for me to insert Maine tax.

So, these states are nailing the buyer!  How unfair is that?!

I have run across some sites that tack on the individual's state tax, but not many.  And if they don't charge me, I don't pay it.  So why should I, as the buyer, be responsible for this?

J.C.Penny's is one online company that does charge for state taxes.  I can't think of any others.

1 posted on 05/05/2005 6:20:02 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; metesky; kattracks; ..

State Government Glutton ping.


2 posted on 05/05/2005 6:20:47 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

I believe Target does, too.


3 posted on 05/05/2005 6:21:17 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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To: SheLion

And citizens worry about the Patriot Act. This has a more far-reaching effect on average citizens than the Patriot Act ever will!


4 posted on 05/05/2005 6:21:19 AM PDT by mlc9852
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5 posted on 05/05/2005 6:21:37 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: mlc9852
And citizens worry about the Patriot Act. This has a more far-reaching effect on average citizens than the Patriot Act ever will!

Amen!

6 posted on 05/05/2005 6:22:36 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Nice to see the Government has so much time on their hands to investigate citizens and bill them for on-line smokes, yet there's not enough time to seal the borders and enforce existing immigration laws.


7 posted on 05/05/2005 6:23:19 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: SheLion

These kind of taxes are reminiscent of a government-run protection racket...


8 posted on 05/05/2005 6:23:58 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: SheLion
What about the online auctions? And what about the sellers of any site not charging the state taxes?

Don't worry. They'll get around to those soon.

9 posted on 05/05/2005 6:23:59 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: SheLion
I'm surprised the states haven't resorted to breaking legs and threatening to hurt people's children "in order to rectify this situation we find ourselves in".

I guess the other states are waiting for New Jersey to take the lead in this.

10 posted on 05/05/2005 6:24:18 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SheLion
smokers now pay $2 in cigarette taxes on every pack they purchase in the Wolverine State.

Depending on the brand of cigarettes, that is about a 100% tax.

And they wonder why folks buy cigarettes elsewhere. . .

11 posted on 05/05/2005 6:28:32 AM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: SheLion

Stevie Ray Vaughns song the taxman is so true. Find it listen to it. Its good.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 6:29:15 AM PDT by daddyOwe ("a man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to leave alone")
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To: SheLion

Laws do vary anymore, but in the pre-Internet mail-order days, a company could only charge state taxes if they had an outlet in that state.

For example, mail order JCPenny could charge taxes on an order if they had at least one JCPenny retail store in that state. Otherwise, they (and the purchaser) could avoid paying state tax where the purchaser lived if JCPenny had no retail outlet in the purchaser's state.

This was a great incentive for mail order companies and their out of state customers.


13 posted on 05/05/2005 6:30:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SheLion

Ebay purchases will be next.


14 posted on 05/05/2005 6:32:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The Republican Party is the France of politics--Lazamataz)
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To: SheLion
And citizens worry about the Patriot Act. This has a more far-reaching effect on average citizens than the Patriot Act ever will!

Amen!...............Amen and Halleluiah…try doing this with beer tax, then we’ll see the fur fly!

15 posted on 05/05/2005 6:35:18 AM PDT by yoe
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To: SheLion

With no sales tax in Delaware, many people cross the state line from Pennsylvania to buy there...but you are required to report all purchases to Pennsylvania and pay "use tax" on them. Many states chase this down for big-ticket items like automobiles, but Internet commerce has broadened the problem and the enforcement.

I'm not a smoker, but I recall noting years ago that few people would break the tax seal on cigarette packs (just opening the corner). Federal offense there.

Disclaimer: IANAL


16 posted on 05/05/2005 6:37:01 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: SheLion
Amen and Halleluiah…try doing this with beer tax, then we’ll see the fur fly!
17 posted on 05/05/2005 6:38:06 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Corin Stormhands
The Virginia attorney general's office recently prosecuted two online cigarette companies (www.cigoutlet.com and www.affordablecigs.com) and discovered purchases from those two sites cost 46 states $2 million in revenue. Virginia investigators shared the names of those sites' customers with officials in other states, prompting many of the letters.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??????????

18 posted on 05/05/2005 6:38:15 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: DTogo

Nice to see the Government has so much time on their hands to investigate citizens and bill them for on-line smokes, yet there's not enough time to seal the borders and enforce existing immigration laws.

Yea, you got THAT right!

And the postal service and UPS and Fed X is reported to go along with it?  

It just goes to show that the anti smoking movement is NOT about people quitting smoking.  It's about the revenue smoker's provide to the state.  And the state's can't stand it that smoker's are now finding cheaper ways to spend their money.

If the state's weren't such gluttons by continually raising taxes on cigarettes, then the smoker's would have continued to support their state.  But when taxes went so high, the smoker's threw their hands in the air and said 'enough is enough.'

When the lawmakers are too gutless to cut spending, stick it to the smokers and tell them it's for their own good.

 


19 posted on 05/05/2005 6:40:40 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Gabz

First I've heard about it, but if they violate existing laws...


20 posted on 05/05/2005 6:40:49 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Will work for tagline.)
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