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MLB reportedly fears Bonds at risk of conviction
ESPN.com ^ | 8 May 2005 | ESPN.com news services

Posted on 05/08/2005 7:22:51 AM PDT by MikefromOhio

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To: sirthomasthemore

neither do I...but I think it is more Barry than the MLB...

people give Selig too much credit sometimes errr all the time....

if it were the NBA, I would buy it, but Selig is a buffoon....


21 posted on 05/08/2005 8:06:41 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: TYVets


Doesn`t Sosa look a little lite these days? Like 10 or 15 pounds lite?


22 posted on 05/08/2005 8:07:02 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: MikeinIraq

You reap what you sow


23 posted on 05/08/2005 8:08:31 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Para-Ord.45

well I dont know....

but he is right in line with the normal decline in numbers of a player his age...

We do have to remember that Cal Ripken Jr had one of his best years at 38 years old and I guarantee HE didn't use the roids....


24 posted on 05/08/2005 8:14:43 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: MikeinIraq


What`s Sosa got so far, 4 home runs ! ?

That right angle drop off is too steep to attribute to age only.


25 posted on 05/08/2005 8:18:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

not really when you attribute injuries and last year....

he is projected out to about 23 homers and 75 RBIs....that fits right into the curve....


26 posted on 05/08/2005 8:19:27 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: MikeinIraq
"spell McGwire's name right, my last name is the way you spelled it...."

Sorry Mike, the dyslexia is acting up this morning.

In no way did I wish to besmirch your fine name as any relation to the Steroid Home Run King of the Cardinals.

My apologies sir

27 posted on 05/08/2005 8:23:18 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: MikeinIraq
What really sucks is that he was a definite first ballot hall of famer before he started the roids too,
How do you know that? You don't what he's been using and you don't know when he may have started.

I've been rooting for the Giants since they were in the Polo Grounds. Bonds sux.
 
28 posted on 05/08/2005 8:24:37 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: TYVets

well he is a distant relative, I just don't like seeing his misspelled name misspelled again...

I wish he would have either completely denied using them (like Sosa and Palmerio did) or admitted it and apologized. I dont know what to think of him now....


29 posted on 05/08/2005 8:25:02 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: oh8eleven

yeah I can. I remember when he came up as a 180lb player with the Pirates. He was a 30-30 guy well before the roids.....

He didnt start roiding up until he his San Francisco. He gained some weight with the Pirates, but every player does that except maybe John Kruk.....


30 posted on 05/08/2005 8:26:17 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: MikeinIraq


Mike, agreed as to Selig. I haven't watched baseball from the day the owners installed their "stooge" as Commissioner. Fay Vincent was the last real and true Commissioner of baseball.


31 posted on 05/08/2005 8:27:58 AM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

Yep and I think Giamatti (I hope I spelled that one right) was the best one in the past 60 years too....


32 posted on 05/08/2005 8:30:33 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Exactly my thought. These knee surgeries have conveniently kept Bonds free of the "testing lab". He sits out the season, or most of it, then comes back and tests "clean".


33 posted on 05/08/2005 8:31:12 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: MikeinIraq
"I dont know what to think of him now.... " (McGwire).

I know what I think of McGwire now,,,,

My description of him should not be posted even on an adult web site.

34 posted on 05/08/2005 8:32:51 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: MikeinIraq
He was a 30-30 guy well before the roids.....
BUT - you don't know that, and that's my point. From Day One he could have been using any number of performance enhancing drugs - legal or otherwise.
I think any records set by him, McGuire and Sosa should all be tossed. Cheaters all.
 
35 posted on 05/08/2005 8:36:08 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: TYVets

I won't convict anyone without proof...that means a drug test, which we dont have, thanks to the Players Union and the MLB.

I lay the blame for this entire thing on the owners of the teams and the commish. They were the enablers. while I fault players for doing something morally wrong (Not to mention illegal), I don't and can't blame them for doing this to try to make themselves better players. I also can't say that I wouldnt do it myself, considering the amount of money to be made and how hard the game can be...

Also, it isnt as if today's players are the only ones doing it either....there have been players coming out of the past week or so now saying that even back into the early 60's and all througout the 70's and 80's pitchers and hitters were trying ANYTHING with the roids to get themselves better at the game....


36 posted on 05/08/2005 8:36:24 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: oh8eleven

Bonds is the only proven one....that is the quandary that the MLB now faces.

and Bonds had the talent when he came up to be a Hall of Famer...it wasnt even close...


37 posted on 05/08/2005 8:37:42 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (I joined the EEEVVIILLLL Sam's Club on Friday, April 22nd, 2005.....)
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To: MikeinIraq
Bonds is the only proven one
At the least, you've conveniently forgotten Sosa's corked bat.

Bonds had the talent when he came up
Bonds had the talent drugs when he came up...
 
38 posted on 05/08/2005 8:41:41 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: MikeinIraq

Seems to me what we have here is a good ole fashioned blackballing....

MLB knows it let the salary and steroid situation get way out of hand and cannot withstand a the Home Run record to be broken by a steroid user. This blackstorm on the horizon may be as bad as the Black Sox scandal for MLB.

So what do they do? Start digging dirt on Bonds and run him out of the game hoping the scandal will just go away. I'm surprised that MLB even has the authority to start digging into the tax affairs of one of it's employees. After all didn't they ban Steinbrenner for hiring an investigator to go after Dave Winfield?


39 posted on 05/08/2005 8:42:23 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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MLB knows it let the salary and steroid situation get way out of hand and cannot withstand a the Home Run record to be broken by a steroid user.
They already have, three times ... Sosa, Bonds, McGuire. Why stop now?
 
40 posted on 05/08/2005 8:47:26 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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