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Bush buries shame of Yalta
townhall.com ^ | 05/16/05 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 05/16/2005 12:20:22 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: DoctorMichael

I had few problems with The Gipper, but the biggest was his unabashed adoration of FDR. FDR screwed up this country, and much of the world, for more than a half century. We're still trying to come to grips with Social Security. What I could have done with all the FICA taxes I've paid over the decades!


21 posted on 05/16/2005 1:34:52 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Dino Rossi in 2005!)
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To: Snidely Whiplash; bruin66
The UN Charter was signed 1/1/42.

The Yalta Conference began 12/2/45.

22 posted on 05/16/2005 1:35:32 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: wideawake

That's correct, Churchill walked out when FDR and Stalin suggested executing the officer corps of the German army. We're not talking about the SS, the Wehrmacht.

Regards, Ivan


23 posted on 05/16/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Snidely Whiplash; bruin66
Correction:

The UN Declaration was signed 1/1/42

The UN Charter was signed 6/26/45

The Yalta Conference began 12/2/45

24 posted on 05/16/2005 2:07:55 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: wideawake
"I hope Marshal Stalin would again propose a toast to the execution of 50,000 officers of the German army."

What a sickening statement.

FDR was filth.

If you'd bother to read the documents about Yalta, instead of just swallowing the Kool-Aid Mrs. Schlafly fed you, you'd see it was a joke. Stalin proposed a toast to the execution of 50,000 German officers. Churchill expressed his dismay. In a lame attempt to lighten the mood, FDR proposed a toast to the execution of *49,000* officers. The humor is slight, but it's there..."Oh, Winnie, you don't want us to kill 50,000 German officers? Okay...how about 49,000?"

In any case, Stalin backed off the idea, despite being told that the US Army would likely support such a draconian measure. Stalin claimed he was just kidding, but Churchill never was convinced he was.

Right about then people were pretty mad at Germany for their little adventure in Europe, and were looking for ways to stop such a thing from happening again. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the Germans - they basically got what they deserved (except the rape and pillage business that the Red Army did). The fact that Stalin benefited post-war sucks, because he was every bit the monster Hitler was, but the Germans started the damned war, not the Russians, and 30,000,000 Russian soldiers and civilians died because of Germany's aggression.

SW

25 posted on 05/16/2005 2:15:05 PM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Snidely Whiplash
the Germans started the damned war, not the Russians

!?!

They both did.

Are you saying that the Nazis invaded Poland all by themselves?

26 posted on 05/16/2005 2:26:17 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: smoothsailing
The Yalta Conference began 12/2/45

Yalta happened when FDR was alive. I think it was 2/12/45.

27 posted on 05/16/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by sharkhawk (I really have to stop surfing at DU.)
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To: sharkhawk
That makes sense. I went back and checked the dates at the UN website, and they do put the day before The month.

Silly me! Thanks!

28 posted on 05/16/2005 3:01:08 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: bruin66; Snidely Whiplash
See #27 & #28

Snidely is correct.

29 posted on 05/16/2005 3:52:53 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: wideawake
Are you saying that the Nazis invaded Poland all by themselves?

Of course not. But it was German expansionist plans that set off the whole thing. While Stalin was complicit in the taking of Poland, it seems unlikely that he'd have been part of the partition all on his own.

Despite his bloodthirsty nature, Stalin wasn't nearly as ballsy as Hitler, who'd already re-taken the Rhineland, Czechoslovakia and Austria before 9/1/39.

There's also the fact that the Soviets' participation in the Polish business was essentially a grab for a buffer zone on Stalin's part. Wasn't right, but it makes more sense in light of that.

SW

30 posted on 05/17/2005 10:51:26 AM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks. Were the details of who got how many votes worked out?


31 posted on 05/18/2005 9:59:18 AM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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