Posted on 05/24/2005 9:45:19 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan
Interesting. I love stuff like this. Gets the imagination going.
"It changes history in a big way," Wolter said."
Not such a big way. I think it's reasonably
clear the history of this continent did not
start in 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean
blue.
But the university history folks--the establishment--
are reluctant to acknowledge that.
For example, there are various Indian tribes that
are clearly caucasians rather than Asians or
otherwise. The Euchees may be one such tribe.
And some believe the Pimas of the southwest
and Mexico are in fact Etruscans. I don't know a lot,
but apparently there were people running around the Americas
way before that lost Italian thought he'd discovered
India. (But I don't buy the LDS point of view, either.)
"Eight Goths and 22 Norwegians on an exploration journey "
Friends of yours?.....:)
And then there are the runes found in Oklahoma..
They're recycling THAT old fraud again? Please, don't anybody be so gullible as to purchase the upcoming book, or buy the argument. It belongs with "bigfoot" and "Nessie" hoaxes.
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There's some in Harrisburg PA and Winchester VA, too.
There are things that look supiciously like "cup marks" in the granite boulders near my house.
I have a greenstone 3/4 groove stone hammer/ax that resembles those found in ancient Europe.
[free Kennewick man!].....;))
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"Eight Goths and 22 Norwegians on an exploration journey "
Friends of yours?.....:)
The Knights Templar were formed to be a military arm of the Catholic Church with the purpose to organize for the Crusades. They were in effect monastic knights who became fabulously wealthy thanks to the many benefices they received from wealthy nobility.
Philip IV, also known as Philip the Fair, had them all arrested on the night of October 13, 1307. Their trials lasted 7 years at the end of which time all their property had been confiscated and most of the knights and leaders put to death.
By 1362, the Templars were long gone so any connection to this Minnesota monolith is pretty much ruled out.
To say that the Templars were persecuted by the Catholic Church is also somewhat misleading. In 1305 a French cardinal was elected pope as Clement V and was forced to move to Avignon by hostile Romans.
As Clement was under the protection of Philip IV, he was largely forced to go along with Philip's plundering of the Templars.
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Fascinating video and story.
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I like Thor Heyerdahl's Ra and Kontiki, and I buy what the Book of Mormon says.
The "L" and "U" are for Lena and Uley or now pronounced Oley. The stone is most obviously the codex for all Oley and Lena jokes in the world. Uff da!
Maybe I missed the size and weight of the stone? But, was a genuine stone brought over by an enterprising immigrant and planted?
for later...
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There is a College Prof. at Moorhead State U. who thinks it's bogus, and the Star and Tribune has generally printed negative opinions. However, as the evidence has mounted, the tide has swung towards authenticity. I have come to be of that opinion.
Wolter started his investigations as a non-believing skeptic. He is a forensic geologist who tests concrete failure and the like. He concluded that the stone had been inscribed when it was dressed, and that it had been in the ground for greater than 200 years, which would predate Ohman, the farmer who found it.
This was done scientifically by measuring the oxidization of one of the several types of Mica that are found in Graywakke(sp?). If the Stone is bogus, then this fact must be explained, no?
There have been other skeptics who have pointed to Runic flaws. All now have been proven to have been in use in 1362. If it is a fake, then Ohman would have had to be an expert in medieval Runes. He had a 6th grade education. Was he just lucky?
If a theory is true, then all the little facts will affirm the theory. If one arises that cannot be explained by the theory, then the theory is wrong and needs to be reformulated. An example is, if OJ is guilty, then he must have owned size 12 Bruno Maglie shoes.
It looks like the ancillary facts are lining up in support of "genuineness."
If you wish to call it a fraud, then explain how the above facts work in your scenario, in an equally credible or more credible fashion.
If you can, I will gladly come over to your side.
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