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Report: Hijackers should have drawn FBI scrutiny in San Diego
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 6/9/05 | Seth Hettena - AP

Posted on 06/09/2005 4:56:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 06/09/2005 4:56:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Lemme get this straight. It took the FBI almost 4 years to figure this out.


2 posted on 06/09/2005 4:57:39 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: NormsRevenge

What's the big deal.
Kerry was notified of security short comings at Logan airport (pretty much spelled out the 9/11 scenario) by people that worked security at the airport.
He's much more responsible for what happened than any FBI agent who failed to connect dots. Kerry was handled the whole issue on a silver platter 5 months before it happend and did nothing.
And let's not talk about Tiny Tom Delay's wife.


3 posted on 06/09/2005 5:01:04 PM PDT by ProudVet77
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh hell, so many gov't agencies screwed the pooch on these guys there's plenty of blame to go around.


4 posted on 06/09/2005 5:04:48 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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Under guidelines in place at the time, the San Diego FBI lacked the grounds to open an investigation. Doing so would have broken the law, Dzwilewski said.

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When did breaking laws ever stop the FBI or feds in the past?

Gorelick and Clinton, FReeh and Reno. Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC,,

We been had from within and now the FBI is the stooge and/or fall-guy, again, per the IG.

With the enemies already well established within and the terrorists allowed to 'train' in our country, makes ya wonder or it should, as to what really happened and where did the buck really stop. jmo

5 posted on 06/09/2005 5:09:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge
When did breaking laws ever stop the FBI or feds in the past?

In the 70's. WaPo + Felt. Oh...that was a Republican President...nevermind.

6 posted on 06/09/2005 5:15:31 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - L O V E - my attitude problem!)
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To: NormsRevenge

When did breaking laws ever stop the FBI or feds in the past?

Gorelick and Clinton, FReeh and Reno. Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC,,

We been had from within and now the FBI is the stooge and/or fall-guy, again, per the IG.

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You said it all!!!


7 posted on 06/09/2005 5:33:00 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: ProudVet77
And let's not talk about Tiny Tom Delay's wife.

Sure you don't mean Daschle?
8 posted on 06/09/2005 5:49:25 PM PDT by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

I forgot a couple..

The AFRican embassies, the WTC, not once but twice.

Much as on Decemer 7, 1941, the targets were sitting ducks, and the attacks unimpeded, as those sworn to protect were in a disconnect and did not see war was already declared.


9 posted on 06/09/2005 5:52:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Terpfen

Ooops, I started a long weekend this afternoon, a rare sunny hot and humid one here. So I've been hydrating my body with liquids ;) You are exactly right.


10 posted on 06/09/2005 5:58:33 PM PDT by ProudVet77
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To: FreedomPoster
let me vent a little with a little vanity.
I live in Woodstock, GA. In the last two weeks, a "group", I guess part of them is a family has moved in up the street. They have no less than 5 cars, three having "tag applied for". They are all late model Mercedes.
Hanging in the garage is a large U.S. flag and two of the cars have small U.S. flags on them.
3 of the "group" are young, well built Muslim males that wear traditional garb with shaved heads.
After 9/11 and now Lodi, CA I'm trying not to be paranoid but with the flags it's almost like they are trying too hard..
Do I have a reason to be concerned?
11 posted on 06/09/2005 6:57:22 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: WoodstockCat
Yes, you have reason to be concerned. Watch for other people coming in and out or for deliveries.

You can't just call the FBI with what you have. You have to have something suspicious in their behavior in order to report them, otherwise you will be ignored.

12 posted on 06/09/2005 7:01:31 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks Bill Clinton!


13 posted on 06/09/2005 7:23:31 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: WoodstockCat; Miss Marple

I would 2nd Miss Marple, and further, if they don't have tags in 45 days or so, report them. Keep really good descriptions of all the vehicles.


14 posted on 06/09/2005 7:35:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: WoodstockCat

What are you waiting for?


15 posted on 06/09/2005 10:21:01 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: WoodstockCat; Treader

What are you waiting for- deep personal regret or anonymous humility?


16 posted on 06/09/2005 10:27:52 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: FreedomPoster

They're still working on the Lindberg Baby case.


17 posted on 06/10/2005 1:32:42 AM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: NormsRevenge

Jamie (the Dunce) Gorelick is the very person who promulgated the Justice Department decision that clearly forbade the CIA to share intelligence information with the FBI, and vice versa.

That was the exact reason those two Saudis weren't picked up by the FBI. The CIA followed them into the country, and had to drop off because their jurisdiction ended, and, by law and Gorelick's memo, legally could not tell the FBI.
This is history, but it's still just as aggravating as it was whan it first came out.

The agencies had never had the ability to communicate with each other without restrictions. Both agencies, recognizing the growing danger, requested leeway. The Gorelick memo was their answer.

Jamie Gorelick, who sat on the 9/11 Commission, was asked about the damage her memo had done, ie, allow 9/11 to occur. Without blinking, Gorelick stated that her memo actually granted the FBI and the CIA permission to communicate, and that both agencies had misunderstood it.

WHAT OUTRAGEOUS BULLSH-T!!!!

And she got away with it.

And now Gorelick came out the other day (saw it in here, I think), that "several Commission members are dissastisfied" with the way the FBI has implemented (or not) the directives of the Commission. She strongly hinted
that she was considering taking action to break up the FBI altogether, and replace it with something else.

Now this dork IG raises a dead issue, for which Gorelick herself bears a great deal of responsibility, and uses it as further current criticism of the FBI.

DoJ has never liked the FBI, because it couldn't make JE Hoover be subservient. He was extremely reluctant to allow the Bureau to be used politically. (Example: Nixon actually asked Hoover to conduct the "plumbers'" mission with FBI agents. Hoover refused, advised him not to form such a group. Also, Hoover lobbied strongly against the internment of Japanese nationals after Pearl Harbor. He lost that argument, and the FBI was used to enforce the internment order.) Hoover angered many folks over time at DoJ.

After Hoover died, in 1972, the FBI was no longer able to defend itself that way. Pat Gray F'd up Big Time...he had no understanding of the absolute necessity to keep politics out of Bureau investigations (Watergate was a tough situation, however.) And the Directors since that time have been okay, with Freeh and current Director, Robert Mueller, being the best, IMHO.

But "watch the skies", folks. Something devastating may be coming the FBI's way, and it's all politics.


18 posted on 06/10/2005 3:45:14 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo (Not going so good? Just kick somebody's a$$. You'll feel a lot better!)
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Gorelick is attached to Hillary at the hip. I just know it.

I'll betcha Gorelick destroyed tons and tons of stuff on the Clintons. Are you telling me that none of the security people around Bubba knew about all his flings?? What about Brown and Foster. Think about Hillary and Nixon. Think about our Archives Burglar. The anti-Bush 9-11 committee (run by Gorelick). Now think about Gorelick's memo with all those thoughts in mind. It's called operatives in the White House!! Felt was nothing!!

19 posted on 06/10/2005 7:27:44 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: WoodstockCat

Yes, do watch them. Also, I might not go through some guy at the FBI, but rather would contact -- oh, I don't know -- someone who cares: Daniel Pipes, Frank Gaffney. At least they might have an idea of which FBI guys would act on info. I would watch those guys like a hawk. Might even take notes on things going on there.


20 posted on 06/10/2005 10:48:06 AM PDT by bboop
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