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2006 Thunderbirds team includes first female pilot
Air Force Link ^ | 16 June 2005 | From ACC via Air Force Link

Posted on 06/16/2005 3:00:04 PM PDT by Racehorse

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To: ABN 505

Women do fly in combat.


61 posted on 06/16/2005 5:07:37 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (If their Chief of police is okay with it, I am guessing that we should probably be okay with it.)
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To: Racehorse

Ramstein 2 coming?


62 posted on 06/16/2005 5:08:07 PM PDT by G32
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To: FreedomCalls

We are talking about combat jets which in most situations have to be modified to conform with the body size and special requirements for women. If these planes are needed in an emergency they would have to be remodified for the normal fighter pilot configuration. This is what I have been told by a 25 yr A/F Veteran. Is he a liar? Or has P.C. gone so far that we would weaken our forces just to placate the feminists that have infested our Armed Forces?


63 posted on 06/16/2005 5:10:23 PM PDT by ABN 505
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To: G32

That was uncalled for.


64 posted on 06/16/2005 5:11:26 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend

Not PC, I know.


65 posted on 06/16/2005 5:12:21 PM PDT by G32
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To: ABN 505

I don't know what modifications the cockpit would need. It's a chair with a rocket attached. That chair is adjustable over about 12" fore/aft and a couple of inches up and down. As long as the pilot can work the rudder pedals and the stick/throttle, no mods are necessary.

I think your veteran friend is pulling your leg. Male pilots come in all sizes. I met one who was very short, he did fine in the U-2 and came from Tweet training instructor.

Only real problem would be if the person has a very slight build... the G-suit may not work optimally. I had a friend win an incentive ride in an F-15. He was about 5' 7" and 110 pounds, soaking wet. The first time his pilot pulled 5-6 G's he was out like a light and doesn't remember anything after the first 10 minutes of the flight. LOL.


66 posted on 06/16/2005 5:26:27 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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To: hattend
Only real problem would be if the person has a very slight build... the G-suit may not work optimally. I had a friend win an incentive ride in an F-15. He was about 5' 7" and 110 pounds, soaking wet. The first time his pilot pulled 5-6 G's he was out like a light and doesn't remember anything after the first 10 minutes of the flight. LOL.

When you look at the top aces in air combat history, most of them are small, slight men, and there are very few who would be considered big men (Well, Goering, who was a WWI Ace, was pretty big, not the big tub of goo he was in WWII though.)

Oddly the number that are blue-eyed is way above the general population as well, nobody quite knows what to make of that.

67 posted on 06/16/2005 5:49:20 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: G32

I know this isn't politically correct either, but I hope and pray that this situation isn't reminicent of the Kara S. Hultgreen affair. Advancement in the name of PCness can be tragic.


68 posted on 06/16/2005 6:31:05 PM PDT by Surtur
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To: stylecouncilor

#17 bump!


69 posted on 06/16/2005 6:44:28 PM PDT by onedoug
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70 posted on 06/16/2005 6:49:13 PM PDT by Aeronaut (2 Chronicles 7:14.)
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To: Racehorse

Good for her! Maybe she can bring some excitement to the T-birds. The Thunderbirds are extrodinary pilots, no doubt about that, but not exciting to watch perform. The Blue Angels, on the otherhand, always wow the crowd.


71 posted on 06/16/2005 6:59:11 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Dashing Dasher

So long as she flies to the same standards as the rest of the team, no problem. Also, she looks a lot better than the Steve Canyons standing in front of their ride!!!


72 posted on 06/16/2005 7:17:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: Strategerist
Actually, most of the recent jet aces were relatively big guys. Duke Cunningham and Robin Olds were almost too big to fit in the F-4 Phantom, but Olds actually made his bones in the F-86.
73 posted on 06/16/2005 7:21:51 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: cpdiii

Do you HONESTLY think the Thunderbirds - who fly within feet of each other at speeds in excess of 400 mph would hire a woman - just because she was a woman and not because she was highly qualified?


74 posted on 06/16/2005 7:22:14 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of FReepers...)
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To: Surtur

This is nothing like 'Revlon', the F-16 is super easy to fly, unlike the Tomcat.


75 posted on 06/16/2005 7:22:49 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: GBA
The Thunderbirds are extrodinary pilots

This is a notion that must end. The pilots who fly for the Thunderbirds (and the Blue Angels) are not better pilots, and do not do anything that other trained fighter pilots cant do. These individuals are chosen first for their professionalism, their attitude and their ability to 'represent' their respective branch of the service. There ability to fly is not often exceptional within their peer group.

76 posted on 06/16/2005 7:27:21 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: Pukin Dog

They also have to be able to smile and kiss babies for months on end.

The constant media and public attention gets tiresome - FAST!



77 posted on 06/16/2005 7:29:26 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of FReepers...)
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To: Dashing Dasher
I am well aware. I tried and failed to make the Blues during my era, but I did fly demos, and meet airshow crouds. Babies as a rule smell like poo.
78 posted on 06/16/2005 7:31:46 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: GBA

Even the Blue Angels have toned down their show in recent years. I remember a maneuver called the "Tuck Away Roll" which was spectacular. #5 and #6 would appear as one and when the rolled apart - you would realize that there were actually two.

It was stunning - I've seen it on tape a 100 times and still think it rocks.

I'm still in awe of all three of the jet teams that we see here in the US. The Canadian Snowbirds are spectacular as well.

This year at Reno - we will have both the Snowbirds and Thunderbirds. Should be deafeningly amazing!

;-)

Dasher


79 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:12 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of FReepers...)
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To: Pukin Dog

And autograph seekers are weird.



Remind me to tell you a story about me signing autographs sometime.


80 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:59 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of FReepers...)
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