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As TVs grow, so do electric bills
Christian Science Monitor (via Yahoo) ^ | June 16, 2005 | Mark Clayton

Posted on 06/18/2005 7:11:20 AM PDT by Drew68

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To: drt1

We are upgrading to LCD's for every screen in our home as the old monitors and TV's bite the dust. So far we have 17" and 19" LCD monitors and a 26" Sharp Aquos LCD HDTV. We love them all. The picture, the small footprint, there is no downside. These things are going down in price at a jaw-dropping pace. Like you, I doubt they suck more juice than a CRT, but we might be using them more!


41 posted on 06/18/2005 8:30:54 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: ßuddaßudd
Call me old skool, but my 27" set sufficiently provides all the entertainment and news I need.

You haven't lived till you've seen Rollie Pollie Ollie or Brandy and Mr.Whiskers on a big screen. Cartoons are the most beautiful on big screens. Dora, Kim Possible...never mind, too many to name.

42 posted on 06/18/2005 8:31:08 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I agree. I have a Studio Experience 20HD LCD projector. (Sanyo PLV-70) It destroys the experience of watching a box.


43 posted on 06/18/2005 8:31:24 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Nov3
So you went and used a man's store and his marketing and his sales staff with the intention of purchasing elsewhere? How Cool.

Doesn't everyone? :)

In all fairness, we're moving to a place that just doesn't have the kind of resources we have here in San Diego. I needed to see everything and then figure out how to get it to where we are moving. So the internet seemed like the best bet. I was telling my husband I just don't understand how these stores can survive. I understand charging a bit more for the service and proximity, etc. But the 50" TV was $6,500 at the store we went to and I found in at a reputable online vendor for $4,300. That's a big difference, don't you think?

44 posted on 06/18/2005 8:32:58 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Drew68

HDTV the next SUV!


45 posted on 06/18/2005 8:38:17 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Hildy
It is a huge difference. I bought a lot of my equipment off the internet. I didn't use anyone's store but in all fairness the equipment I bought was not available in the store.

I have worked in family owned businesses and have had people come in and pump me for information and then "forget their wallet" or something like that. It is frustrating and almost like theft. The big box stores drive the smaller guys in the ground and a lot of the stuff they sell is true trash compared to the premium product. Still you can't ignore a few thousand dollars

46 posted on 06/18/2005 8:41:04 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Hildy
This is the one we got first:

JVC 52 Inch HD-ILA TV. The only difference is ours is all Black.

Now we have:

HD DLP Projector with an 8 foot screen. It rocks!

47 posted on 06/18/2005 8:42:48 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Drew68

Typical French/commie type: Always attacking anything big. Euroweenies have small roads, small cars, small homes, small meals, small TVs, small toilets, small yards (if any), small armies, small everything but governments.


48 posted on 06/18/2005 8:44:13 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Drew68

I went and got one of those 32 inch flat screens for my bdrm. The room is so long I couldn't see the screen for a year. Now I can! Maybe I shoulda gotten glasses instead.


49 posted on 06/18/2005 8:46:24 AM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: Mad Dawgg
HD DLP Projector with an 8 foot screen. It rocks!

My husband would definitely have tv envy over an 8 foot screen.

50 posted on 06/18/2005 8:46:25 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Trust but Verify
Yep - And the sizes of the flat screen TV's are larger than the CRT's they replaced so there might be some increase due to upgrade in size but still, the heat generated by the CRT tells as much about energy consumption as I need to know.

BTW, I have a couple of Samsung TV/Computer Monitor Combo's and they are fantastic. I use these as TVS during power outages and they run for several hours on my mid sized UPS. I can guarantee that if I hooked my UPS up to my old CRT TV it would run for about 10 minutes.

51 posted on 06/18/2005 8:46:50 AM PDT by drt1
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To: daviddennis
If you could save 10% on your air conditioning bill, it would mean a lot more than 100% on your TV. Seems to me these people don't have their priorities straight.

Well, here's a thought for you. In the winter time, all that electrical energy used to run the tv isn't wasted at all since it is converted into heat. Therefore, it just reduces the amount of heat that has to be put into the house by an equivalent amount. On the other hand, the extra heat from the tv also has the effect of increasing the air conditioning load. The bottom line is that if you only used the tv during heating season, it would have absolutely zero impact on the overall energy use of the house.

52 posted on 06/18/2005 8:50:23 AM PDT by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
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To: Mad Dawgg

Really....I don't understand that setup. Please explain..I"m curious!!!!


53 posted on 06/18/2005 8:50:59 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: pbrown
"My husband would definitely have tv envy over an 8 foot screen."

Heheh. What I like about the projectors is that you can mount them on the ceiling then mount your screen on the wall. The screens are retractable so you can save a huge amount of space as opposed to a plasma or a rear projector TV.

And when you have an 8 foot screen in the living room it is just like being in a movie theater.

54 posted on 06/18/2005 8:52:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Drew68

My other favorite story was when I was driving with yet another friend in NYC, about to go through the Lincoln Tunnel. I don't know if they still do this, but the homeless guys would come to squeegee your windshields. It was most annoying. Usually they'd start before you could say no. My girlfriend (a very ballsy girl), just said to the guy, I only have a $100...his response? No problem, I can change it!


55 posted on 06/18/2005 8:54:17 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Drew68; lightingguy

We're not even big tv watchers, but when our old 27" died a few months ago, we bought an HD widescreen - got totally blown away by the Discovery Channel promo they have on them in the stores - and it's true, the picture is amazing.

The problem, which will no doubt change over time, is that cable companies aren't offering much by way of HD options yet. We have TimeWarner (cough/choke) and they offer about half a dozen HD channels in their digital lineup, plus a dozen more in their pay tier, like ESPN (which my husband wants of course!) and all the movie channels, which we won't ever get. We had to get an HD box, which was free, but a pain - they wouldn't let my husband go pick it up, insisted on scheduling an install.

Right now we can watch TNT, which looks fantastic, and ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, Discovery & PBS. Disc & PBS usually look great (when they're airing hi def shows) and Fox looks the best of the networks (24 was great in HD this season), with varying degrees on the others.

The only other problem is the ability to record in HD. My husband was frustrated with buying a new DVD player that was supposed to have the ability but for some reason, which he could explain and I can't, there was an issue with the signal in or out.

However, rented DVDs look incredible. And if my husband can talk me into paying the extra 5 bucks a month for ESPN in HD, the Steelers will look amazing this fall too. :)


56 posted on 06/18/2005 8:54:57 AM PDT by agrace (All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Mad Dawgg
What I like about the projectors is that you can mount them on the ceiling then mount your screen on the wall.

I just use the wall but my projector puts out better than 2000 lumens. It is a light cannon.

57 posted on 06/18/2005 8:55:14 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: agrace

The only way I could get my husband to leave his hometown of San Diego, was to promise that wherever we go we'd be able to watch Padres baseball games! Apparently DirectTV has a MLB package which features most of the games. I can't wait for him to see his beloved Padres in High Definition!!!!


58 posted on 06/18/2005 8:56:19 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Mad Dawgg

HD DLP is the way to go! its cheap and takes no space.
Bulbs however are pricey


59 posted on 06/18/2005 8:58:04 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Hildy

LOL, then you won't be able to get him to leave the chair in front of the TV, let alone San Diego!


60 posted on 06/18/2005 8:58:33 AM PDT by agrace (All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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