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1 posted on 06/27/2005 5:22:49 PM PDT by kristinn
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"Political, social, and civil resistance through peaceful means is subjected to repression by the occupying forces."

In the words of the Clintonistas - "Prove it, prove it, prove it."

"the popular national resistance to the occupation is legitimate and justified."

So, car bombs used to kill non-combatants are sanctioned by the U.N.? C'mon treasonists, speak up. I can't HEAR you!

"That people around the world resist and reject any effort by any of their governments to provide material, logistical, or moral support to the occupation of Iraq."

This is publicly advocated treason, and should be treated a such.

"Any law or institution created under the aegis of occupation is devoid of both legal and moral authority.

So laws enacted against murder, rape, kidnap, and theft are "devoid or both legal and moral authority?" C'mon treasonists, speak up. I can't HEAR you! God, what a bunch of idiots.

"We knew this day would come after September 11. We just didn't know the day."

We did know. And it has been said numerous times in these threads. And Karl Rove talked about the liberal response to terrorism and the liberals are going berserk and demanding he apologize and resign. Rove is right, and we are right.

These groups need to publicly respond and affirm or deny their support to this declaration. And if Homeland Security, the CIA, the DOJ, and the FBI want to know who supports terror, I suggest they read this declaration and see who supports it, and act accordingly.

118 posted on 06/28/2005 5:38:04 AM PDT by Enterprise (Thus sayeth our rulers - "All your property is mine." - - - Kelo vs New London)
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American-based groups like Not in Our Name Project, United for Peace and Justice, Code Pink and International ANSWER

Support by any of these groups for any political candidate should be loudly and repeatedly publicized along with their statements. Then the (Democratic) candidate will be forced to either renounce them or be associated with their statements.

120 posted on 06/28/2005 5:54:26 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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It isn't just code Pink, Answer and other ngos supported by $orea$$ who support the Jihadists. Our Rats in congress, the media and Follywood now openingly support terrorists.


121 posted on 06/28/2005 5:56:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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I wanted to excerpt this article but did not find any paragraphs that were not important to the message

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The Power of Hatred
By Ralph Kinney Bennett  Published   06/28/2005 

http://www.techcentralstation.com/062805D.html

The Islamoterrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan have shown a resilience that some have found surprising.
 
They have learned fast and learned much - about how to build more effective roadside bombs, for instance, and about the futility of engaging American forces directly in firefights.
 
They have shown an ugly ruthlessness about spilling Muslim blood.
 
They have demonstrated an extraordinary ability or extraordinary luck in preserving their leadership, sometimes with hairbreadth escapes.
 
And, although they may be scraping a barrel or two while husbanding their "finest" for later operations, they have thus far produced enough recruits (some with their hands taped to steering wheels) to continue their fight despite heavy losses.
 
Give them credit where credit is due. And credit them, too, for shedding light on a dark reality many Americans would prefer to ignore - the power of hatred.
 
It is fashionable to praise the power of an uplifting idea, but it makes us uncomfortable to admit the power of festering hatred. Yet it is pure hatred that is abroad and alive in the bomb-laden cars that ply the streets and roads of Iraq and in the calculated fury that leaves children dismembered in a market place and young policemen executed with their hands tied behind their backs.
 
All the efforts to comb the Koran and extol the virtues and ideals of "mainstream" Islam will not camouflage nor expiate the murderous hatred of the Islamofanatics at work in Iraq and around the globe.
 
Explore the radical Islamic websites. Consider their pronouncements - all they have said and written. There are no ideals there, few ideas, only impositions.
 
The old Saddamists, now in uneasy ad hoc alliance with the stone terrorists, don't really count.  They may mouth some of the jihadist jargon and fight dirty, but they merely want a return to the grand political imposition that was Saddam's regime.
 
Their "vision," of a return to air-conditioned villas, rape rooms, big cars and Baghdad's best tables, will never be. They are doomed - either at the hands of coalition forces or at the hands of the true Islamofanatics - those who are at the implacable heart of the "resistance" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
The real faith of the Islamofanatics is a faith in fear. Since they have no transcending ideas or ideals, they are determined not only to kill the infidel "crusaders," but to frighten into silence or submission on pain of death those millions of Muslims and nominal Muslims who merely seek to live a quiet life and dare to believe that some freedom and democracy might not be such a bad proposition.
 
These hate-filled men seek to impose a way of life in which there is not the slightest element of liberty or individuality. There is only hatred.
 
Hatred for any who are not of the narrowly defined faith.
 
Hatred for any doctrine, any idea that might allow men and women to seek their own way or just be left alone.
 
And most of all, hatred for the world itself as it is presently constituted.
 
Consider these words, written by one of the apostles of Islamic hatred, the Iranian Ayatollah Muhammad Baqer al-Sadr, back in 1980:
 
"The world as it is today is how others shaped it.  We have two choices: either to accept it with submission, which means letting Islam die, or to destroy it, so that we can construct the world as Islam requires."
          
As this struggle continues, the ragged gaggle of mere thugs, opportunists and murderous nuts who move within the ambit of the Islamofanatics will be roughly sorted out leaving only the hard core. These are the ones who want "the world as Islam requires."
 
Their Islam "requires" submission or death, conversion or extermination.
 
This is the terrorism of the terrorized - of minds frightened into a deadly madness by a world with competing cultures and ideas and daunting possibilities of departure from dogma.
 
The considerable cultural and scientific accomplishments of the civilization that evolved from Islam mean little to the fanatics. They wish to return to a "clean" Islam in a distant past, or rather, in their ill-formed imagination of the past.
 
The rising numbers of foreign fighters who have made their way to Iraq are not fighting "for Iraq" They are there to kill "infidels" and those Muslims who are worse than infidels for their apostasy or indifference. They are there to continue the task they feel was so gloriously joined by the murderers who flew those planes into the World Trade Center at the outset of this long, bloody struggle.
 
Those fatuous lawmakers who float talk of "timetables" and gibber about "quagmires" and think we can simply "come home" from this fight, are guilty at the least of a monstrous ignorance.
 
We are taking a hard pounding, but we have taken harder. Our troops have the stomach to take it and pound back, but if they sense that we back home have lost our nerve then the fight is lost.  The majority of us, who have had to make little or no sacrifice in this war, should at the least be signaling by the millions this July 4th that we not only support our military, but also the winning of this fight.
 
Somehow we must make it clear - to our troops, to our lawmakers, to our president - that we have the mettle and the patience for this; that we are prepared to sacrifice and fight, not merely "for democracy," but against implacable hatred - a hatred impervious to council, to appeal, even to weariness; an exterminating hatred that must itself be exterminated.


122 posted on 06/28/2005 6:00:07 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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I think most people (sheeple) do not realize that the Bathist(sp) regime of Saddam Hussein was communist in nature and therefore groups (leftist, socialist, and communists)like these fear that anyone that shares these ideologies are targets under GWB.

Then again they hate representative government and look for the totalitarian route since they know whats best for everyone.

Just my thoughts.

123 posted on 06/28/2005 6:07:43 AM PDT by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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They are open minded pacifists, what else do you expect?

Of course they will condone the murder, bombings, kidnappings, blackmail, threats, torture, mutilation and any other technique applied by those who want to kill anyone who is not a Muslim.

Gee, can’t you get it? You must be a close minded war monger?!

Red6


124 posted on 06/28/2005 6:09:09 AM PDT by Red6
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A who's who of the moobat Left. Nice to note they reject democracy and free elections. No wonder they consider Musab al Zarqawi a kindred spirit. To that end, the mass murder of civilians is justified well because America is a fascist country and to the moonbat Left, we're on the wrong side of history. It couldn't be any clearer where these folks stand in regards to the War On Terror.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
125 posted on 06/28/2005 6:10:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Wasn't Ms. Heinz-Kerry a supporter of ANSWER?


126 posted on 06/28/2005 6:11:26 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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The 'Americans' involved in this despicable betrayal are no longer 'just' exercising free speech, now it becomes treasonous when they are ACTIVLY engaging in AIDING the EMEMY
128 posted on 06/28/2005 6:29:19 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and the rest can go to hell.)
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Lemme unnerstand: ANSWER and Code Pink support an ARMED struggle against the US in Iraq, but they oppose 2nd Amendment gun ownership for Americans.


129 posted on 06/28/2005 6:33:57 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Hang 'em High ~ Bump!


134 posted on 06/28/2005 6:57:31 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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World Tribunal on Iraq = Democratic Party


139 posted on 06/28/2005 7:23:26 AM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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Let's see how they support the terrorists when they become the target. After all, we're not the only country that is not primarily Islam...which means we aren't the only INFIDELS! How long will it take them to come running back to our side THEN?
144 posted on 06/28/2005 8:00:02 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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What willful, blatant and invidious detachment from reality:
By the principles embodied in the UN Charter and in international law, the popular national resistance to the occupation is legitimate and justified.

Bull crap. The U.N. (in S.C. Resolution 1546, IIRC) declared the "occupation" ended with the transfer of sovereignty a full year ago now. The interim and transitional governments were explicitly and formally recognized not only by the U.N. but by the Arab League fer chrissake.

This cynical leftist rhetoric lamely attempts to cover an explicit and enthusiastic endorsement of WAR by supposed "peace" groups. Been then this crowd has always been pro-war, so long as the war is waged against liberal or liberalizing governments and societies.

148 posted on 06/28/2005 9:00:25 AM PDT by Stultis
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Do we need to start talking about internment? Detention? When is enough enough? We are at war folks and we need to fight to win.


149 posted on 06/28/2005 9:05:36 AM PDT by rockthecasbah
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Ward Churchill's Endorsement Of Fragging Is A Natural Outgrowth Of The Left's Virulent Anti-War Rhetoric

"For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who's already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?"
Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma "fragging" inflicts on that officer's family back home should be considered, he responded: "How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann's family?" -- Ward Churchill


This is, of course, an outrageous comment, but it's also a natural outgrowth of the rhetoric used by a lot of anti-war liberals.

If George Bush is Hitler, doesn't that make the troops Nazis?

If Dick Durbin is right and we're as bad as Pol Pot and the Soviets, why should Americans "support the troops?"

If Michael Moore is right and the terrorists in Iraq are "The Minutemen," shouldn't we be rooting for them to defeat our troops?

The anti-war left has painted the Bush administration as genocidal fascists for sending our troops to Iraq, they treat the war as unjust and immoral, and then they constantly demonize our troops as murderous, torturing thugs. Well, if you believe the rhetoric coming from the left, what Churchill said is just the next logical step.

I'd also note that Churchill is hardly alone on the left:

"Turns out that far-left groups in western Europe are carrying on a campaign dubbed Ten Euros for the Resistance, offering aid and comfort to the car bombers, kidnappers, and snipers trying to destabilize the fledgling Iraq government. In the words of one Italian website, Iraq Libero (Free Iraq), the funds are meant for those fighting the occupanti imperialisti. The groups are an odd collection, made up largely of Marxists and Maoists, sprinkled with an array of Arab emigres and aging, old-school fascists, according to Lorenzo Vidino, an analyst on European terrorism based at The Investigative Project in Washington, D.C. "It's the old anticapitalist, anti-U.S., anti-Israel crowd," says Vidino..."
Here's another quote from popular left-wing moonbat, Bartcop:

"Since feedback tells me a clear majority of bartcop.com readers believe our soldiers are "no different" than the scumbag 9-11 hijackers, I felt uncomfortable counting the who sacrificed their lives for their country, as tho they got what was coming to them."
Here's a wacko who talks about the "Bush Family Evil Empire," how we went to war for oil, who thinks Bush either let 9/11 happen on purpose or was responsible for it, yada, yada, yada, and then it's, "Oh, why don't most of my readers like the soldiers?" Maybe it's because they actually read what you write on your page and take it to the next logical step, you loon.

You know, this sort of rhetoric should prompt some hard questions for the left; it should be a wake-up call.

Maybe people like Dick Durbin should ask themselves if what they're saying is going to be great propaganda for Al-Qaeda. Maybe some people on the left should work a little harder to make it clear that they do think our military are the good guys. Maybe they think that's something they believe "goes without saying," but judging by what Churchill said and what Bartcop wrote about his readers, there are apparently a lot of people out there on the left who aren't getting the message.

In other words, if you're anti-war, dissent as much as you like, but choose your words more carefully to make sure our troops don't suffer as a consequence of your unnecessarily rabid bombast.

-- John Hawkins, rightwingnews.com/
158 posted on 06/28/2005 10:10:22 AM PDT by OESY
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???!!!

I'm speechless . . .


160 posted on 06/28/2005 10:20:31 AM PDT by cvq3842
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Appears these people have declared war on the US. Time to trot out those anti sedition laws and try em for treason.


163 posted on 06/28/2005 11:23:51 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Green parties, islime-ic radical groups, Greenpeace, "Not In Our Name"....as Mad magazine would phrase it, "The usual gang of idiots." But, at least now the scumbags on the left are showing their true colors (as if we ever doubted), and maybe the iggerunt publick might GET A CLUE as to just how perverse and TREASONOUS the left really is!
168 posted on 06/28/2005 12:13:37 PM PDT by Bombardier (Scratch a Democrat, find a traitor. There are NO good Democrats. Period.)
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"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill


174 posted on 06/28/2005 1:35:20 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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