Posted on 07/25/2005 11:33:21 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Is the Houston Chronicle now getting its talking points directly from Hillary "Let's Talk Tough" Clinton?
The pressure on them is growing.
It isn't just the U.S. anymore.
Spain rolled over so easily, no one even considers them worth talking about.
Maybe there's been a change in management.
The biggest dams still start breaking with the formation of a tiny crack. The fact that some few are starting to speak out publicly is good, but there's a heck of a lot of water behind Islam's dam.
Well, there is an excuse I'm done with, too: the "Terrorism is an abomination of Islam" one.
It is not. Terrorism, misogyny and other pleasures are the direct and natural consequences of Islam, an evil ideology that must be destroyed.
What a ridiculous idea would it be to "protect" and "reform" Nazism! It was destroyed as it should be... and what the heck is the difference when we speak of Islam?!
Agree with you... 99%. The only addition I'd like to make is the following: race has nothing to do with the matter of Islam whatsoever.
There are Mohammedans belonging to every race (Negroes, Mongoloids, Caucasians etc.) and nation on earth, as well followers of other ideologies, good or evil.
Using of race card in this regard is indeed bigotry par excellence. It's a fashionable liberal curse, nothing more.
I'm not an apologist for Mohammedans and am certainly no appeaser... I just wonder why one would like to visit the stinky, sticky hot, dusty cesspools - the so called "Muslim-dominated lands"?
Especially in our post-colonial times, when the destruction of the sewage system as the most hated inheritance from the West is the best symbol of the decolonisation process....
Bump!
I'm not keen on going there (would like to see the pyramids however), but I know others who have, and enjoyed it. In fact I have in-laws who live in Dubai and think that it's ok. I just believe that wherever one goes in the world, he or she should not have to worry about extremists killing them because they're foreigners or not members of the same religion.
"It is a world that could only come into being through a re-structuring of human nature and of society itself."
Yes. It won't happen willingly.
I've always thought that one of the greatest hypocrisies about Socialism is that in its attempts to create this great Utopian "selfless" society, it actually creates more selfishness than any other ideology. As we have obviously moved towards more socialism, society has become more about Me than about We. And is this really surprising since socialism promises to take care of...and provide for, the needs of others.
Contrary to what socialists tell us, Socialism breeds radical individualism which has helped create the very entitlement class that exists within our society today. The sad fact is Socialism is inherently flawed (and evil) because it is an ideology that has to create perpetual conflict among other human beings in order to survive (i.e., Rich v Poor, Male v Female, Old v Young, Black v White, etc). And it is for this reason that it is extremely dangerous. Socialism...the BIG LIE.
Controlled masses are not allowed free enterprise or self-enrichment, nor freedom of religion or freedom of the press.
It's obvious when economic and intellectual freedoms need to be withheld and controlled, the idea of socialism/communism runs contrary to human nature and will always fail.
Agreed.
Bravo!
She better watch out, because she is now a target, and her assassins will blame Bush for making them do it.
She's doing the right thing.
Others will follow.
It was plagiarized from the Scriptures and teachings of both the Jews and Christian Religions. That means parts were copied. However, as Islam seeks to supplant the Judeo-Christian heritage, it can hardly be considered based on those teachings. To be "based" in those teachings it would have to basically teach the same things. However Islam more often than not is diametrically opposed to the Judeao-Christian heritage. It is NOT based on it, it is based on the opposite, and the refutation of it.
The head-covers worn by Muslim women stand for modesty and are no different than that which Mary wore.
While I am not so sure what Mary wore, I do know that the burka is based on the repression of the beauty of woman. It is one thing to be modest, however quite another to dress people in sackcloth. As Satan hates the beauty of woman, it is only logical that he would teach the opposite of God, as the beauty of woman hurts his vanity.
Islam believes in the same prophets and history of the old testament.
No it does not. It does not even come close. Other than "borrowing" the names and places, it teaches an entirely different history that writes in Ishmael instead of Isaac. The theft of history and heritage is the foundation of Islam. It also does not understand that God manifested Himself in the person of Jesus, but calls him a valid prophet. As Jesus taught the exact opposite of Mohammad, either Mohammad was a liar, or Mohammad lied when he said Jesus was a valid Prophet. Either way, Mohammad was a liar.
But this is not the only example, Mohammad said that the Jewish people would forever wander the earth without a home for punishment for "corrupting the scriptures". However Israel now exists as a Jewish homeland. Clearly, if you care to look, Islam is a lie, as the man who created it was clearly a liar.
Allah does not command terrorism,
Ishaq:368 “Ka’b’s body was left prostrate [humbled in submission]. (In other words, he submitted, but was killed on the spot) After his fall, all of the Nadir Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad’s order we were sent secretly by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his death with guile [cunning or deviousness].(Mohammad ordered these murders, not by war, but by terrorism) Traveling by night, bold as lions, we went into his home. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet.”(Murdering a man in his own home at night is "victory for the religion of the Prophet?!)
Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 “We carried Ka’b’s head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah’s enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf’s head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah’s Cause. Our attack upon Allah’s enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.’”
Here is terrorism in your own scriptures with Mohammad commanding and praising it.
theft,
Qur’an 8:1 “They ask you about the benefits of capturing the spoils of war. Tell them: ‘The benefits belong to Allah and to His Messenger.’” Ishaq:510 “We ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.’ He used to say this of every town he raided.”
This is called thievery. You know, theft in action commanded by Mohammad Himself. Not once, not twice but "every town he raided"
rape,
Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511 “So Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home. The Messenger took some of its people captive, including Safiyah and her two cousins. The Prophet chose Safiyah for himself.”
Ishaq:511 “When Dihyah protested, wanting to keep Safiyah for himself, the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims.”
In any language, or culture world wide this is called rape. Claiming to marry them, bed them, and divorce them next week does not clear the charges or pain of rape.
torture
Qur’an 5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides...their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly.”
Tabari VIII:122/Ishaq:515 “The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, ‘Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.”
Here are only two scriptures of many where Mohammad COMMANDED Torture.
and lying
Bukhari:V4B52N270 “Allah’s Messenger (Mohammad) said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.’ Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?’ The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.’ Maslama said, ‘Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.’ Muhammad said, ‘You may do so.’” Here Mohammad not only commanded to lie, but commanded his followers to murder someone who said things he did not like about him.
nor did the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) partake or encourage of any such activities;
As you have seen above, from your own scriptures he not only partook, he commanded, and led the raids, not just "encouraged" such crimes.
he treated his enemies in a kind and respectful manner.
If you consider lying to, killing captives in submission, stealing, murder, torture and rape as "kind and respectful", perhaps. But you would have to be a cultist to do that wouldn't you?
Allah commands forgiveness, love, faithfulness to your family and moral responsibility.
If by this comment you mean that you are only moral to your family, but the rest of humanity is fair game, perhaps, but He commanded through Mohammad his Prophet quite the opposite of what you are saying for the whole of mankind:
Ishaq: 676 “‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
Is this what you call forgiveness or moral responsibility, to order the assassination of anyone who dares to point out the simple truth? Did they not follow the orders of Mohammad himself to murder her? He proved that she spoke the truth by ordering her killed and his followers obeying! This is what you call holy?
Allah is simply the Arabic name for God, the same and only God, worshiped by all Muslims, Jews and Christians.
The God of the Jews and Christians commanded to forgive your enemies, Mohammad commanded to slaughter those who dare even point out the truth about you. The God of the Jews and Christians commanded people to love one another, Mohammad commanded Muslims to slaughter all those they disagree with. God commands people to tell the truth, Mohammad commanded his followers to lie.
It is simply obvious that Mohammad teaches all the things that the Judeao-Christian scriptures claim were the teachings of Satan. In the Judeao-Christian Scriptures, Heaven exists and God lives there with those who love him, while Satan lives in Hell. In the Koran, There is no Heaven, only a pleasure palace called Paradise that allows all the things that Allah calls Sins on earth, while God lives in Hell stoking the fires with the infidels.
Are you getting the picture yet? Allah not only teaches sin, he promises it in his ripoff version of Heaven, but he lives in Hell and even says that do not cry out to him when you end up in hell, for HE IS THERE TOO! While you can choose to worship Satan as God, that does not make him one, it just makes you a blood thirsty fool.
Islam is not a cult, it is the second largest religion in the world.
No, Islam is a clearly a cult. The definition of a cult is when the meanings of words are changed to mean different than the common usage. A common trait of Islam. Another sure sign of a cult is when it causes people to do immoral things and call them holy. Islam is the largest death cult in the world.
Yes, Islam means submission, but not submission to injustice, or prejudice or genocide; it is submission to God.
Submission to the sword is injustice, being killed because you refuse to "submit" based on race or religion is the very MEANING OF GENOCIDE! To be killed for your goods, or your race or religion is clearly injustice, and prejudice.
Clearly you are a brainwashed cult member that is a danger to society. I have disproved every single point you stated as fact, not with my own logic but by USING YOUR OWN SCRIPTURES. In fact even your translation of the word Islam is faulty. Islam does NOT mean submission, it means "subjugation" not your politically corrected, watered down propaganda LIE.
It is true Muslims are Muslims first, and unquestionably so, and then whatever race and nationality they happen to be.
It is true that Muslims are not loyal to their own people, or their own cultures, it is also true that Muslim cultures worldwide are a backwards, cursed group of people living under dictatorships, in poverty, killing and attempting to kill and destroy every single culture they have come in contact with including other Islamic ones. They are a cult of violent, greedy, lustful murderers telling themselves that their actions are holy when every child born to man knows that what they are doing is the most inhumane, uncivilized criminal activity in the history of mankind.
And I personally believe 'nuking' Makkah would cause more problems than would be solved.You may be right, but I am trying to be merciful, because I really think every single Muslim Nation on the face of the earth should be included in the first strike, until civilization and mankind is safe from this blood thirsty death cult.
However you my friend are a perfect example of the famous but very rare "Moderate Muslim", you show that the true face of Moderation in Islam is a Lie, and that you, as a good Moderate Muslim are a Liar, are trying to cover the sins of Islam that stink to the high heavens.
By your efforts you have exposed the Shame of Islam for all to see. Thank you very much for your response.
What a drag it must be for you that all the Islamic books have been translated into other languages than Arabic. It must have been a lot easier to convince illiterate savages of your "truths" than civilized people. As for your understanding of what you have signed up for, perhaps you should read them a bit better before you stand before the God you are claiming is a blood thirsty killer like you...
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