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Michigan farmers say U.S. crackdown threatens labor shortage (Immigration)
ap ^ | 7-28-05

Posted on 07/27/2005 10:22:47 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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If they are legal, I have no problem. If they are illegal, fine the business and deport the illegal.
1 posted on 07/27/2005 10:22:48 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

Poor babies might have to pay some decent wages or maybe automate like the Australians.


2 posted on 07/27/2005 10:24:16 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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Each illegal alien costs the taxpayer a net $89,000 lifetime. Mr. Blueberry farmer doesn't volunteer to pay that does he? Nooooooo, we have that sucker the taxpayer who will pay up, because if he objects to paying he can be called a racist, xenophobe, nativist etc.
3 posted on 07/27/2005 10:28:17 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Dan from Michigan

The former cherry pickers are probably too busy hanging drywall. Once they get a foot in the country why would they want to pick cherries?


4 posted on 07/27/2005 10:28:43 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Dan from Michigan
Strikes me as an admission of guilt, right there in the newspaper. Seems like a visit from the ICE is in order.
5 posted on 07/27/2005 10:29:05 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: U.H. Conservative

Sort of reminds one of the several reasons the Civil War began:

The areas of the United States had different economies. In the North, the economy was based on factories and wages . Everyday people worked in the factories. The South had large plantations, which grew cotton. The plantation owners needed the slaves to pick the cotton. They didn’t receive wages, but they were provided food and shelter. In the Midwest, wheat was the number one cash crop. It was harvested by a machine, so they didn’t need as many workers or slaves. These different economies caused divisions in the United States.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 10:29:55 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Dan from Michigan

There are millions of freeloaders sitting on their arses, all over the place, Detroit comes to mind, put them to work!


7 posted on 07/27/2005 10:35:48 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (LET ME DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, ALEX KOZINSKI FOR SCOTUS)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I hope they all go bankrupt.


8 posted on 07/27/2005 10:37:15 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Time to bring back the WPA and make it mandatory for all welfare recipients.


9 posted on 07/27/2005 10:38:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

A dirty secret about our illegal immigration problem is that its not so much "big business" strong arming our government into looking the other way (can't remember seeing too many illegals on the Boeing assembly line), its the agricultural and restaurant industries.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 10:39:25 PM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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Agribusiness is not big business? Folks in Arkansas would be surprised if someone told them that about Tyson.
11 posted on 07/27/2005 10:41:15 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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To: international american

Hey..most business's don't hire illegals.
You will just have to raise the wages to attract legal employees. Seems to me a lot of kids used to do that kind of stuff,because it was enough pay to really amount to something. From grade 8 to 12 I worked every summer at the same kind of manual labor jobs and always got paid more than minimum wage, plus overtime due to labor shortage.
Equivalent wage today would be about $10-12 per hour.


12 posted on 07/27/2005 10:43:08 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: U.H. Conservative

ADM and Tyson are also the recepients of a considerable amount of federal largesse. The fact of the matter is that both BigAg and the family farmer are united in bringing "mas mojados" to the US.


13 posted on 07/27/2005 10:44:43 PM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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Farmers in northwestern Michigan's fruit belt say that fears of a federal crackdown on illegal immigrants are leaving them desperately short of labor this harvest season.

Tell them not to worry. Nobody's gonna take away their illegal workers.

14 posted on 07/27/2005 10:46:11 PM PDT by umgud (Comment removed by poster before moderator could get to it)
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To: Clemenza

Victor Davis Hanson has interesting insights on the issue as a family farmer.


15 posted on 07/27/2005 10:47:40 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative
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To: Oldexpat

"Hey..most business's don't hire illegals. "



With all due respect, most businesses where I live do hire illegals.


16 posted on 07/27/2005 10:49:02 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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...a federal crackdown on illegal immigrants are leaving them desperately short of labor this harvest season.

Cry me a river!

Pay better wages and you will find LEGAL employees. If you have to raise prices to do so, so be it.

17 posted on 07/27/2005 10:49:41 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

We put a man on the friggin moon, we can invent machines to pick a friggin fruit!! OR

Hire some unemployed people and pay some decent wages


18 posted on 07/27/2005 10:50:19 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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19 posted on 07/27/2005 10:54:54 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Spktyr

Great idea, except the disabled.


20 posted on 07/27/2005 10:56:43 PM PDT by Walkenfree (Bad can get worse & good can get better.)
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