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Multicultural Britain Is Not Working, Says Tory Chief
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-3-2005 | George Jones

Posted on 08/02/2005 5:28:44 PM PDT by blam

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To: StatenIsland

Thanks.


21 posted on 08/02/2005 6:20:43 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: blam
Dominic Grieve, the shadow attorney general, said few politicians yet appreciated the sense of anger and alienation felt by many Muslims in Britain. He said the London suicide bombings were "totally explicable" because of the deep sense of anger over the Iraq war, a wider despair about the Islamic world and what Muslims saw as a "decadent" western society.

Well, then Angry Muslim, GO HOME. If you don't like the way the Western World works, you can go back to the cesspool you lived in before.

The problem here is that those Angry Muslims are not angry at their own shortcomings and their own failures and inadequacies as men. They want EVERYONE to be as miserable as they are. They think Sharia law is some panacea that will 'cure' everything.

Yeah, and that's what WE think about Democracy! If you don't want to live in the 21st Century, go back to your camels and goats.
22 posted on 08/02/2005 6:54:44 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (It translates as "72 raisins of startling white clarity" NOT 72 fair skinned maidens.)
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To: blam

Good for Davis. Blair should have said it first.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 6:55:03 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: blam

Go for it!

For starters, copy the French (yes!) approach and ban Islamic dress in school.


24 posted on 08/02/2005 6:57:19 PM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: marron
Non-Muslims have obligations to their Muslim fellow citizens - to strive for equal opportunities for all, to accept the mainstream version of Islam as a part of society and to reject the vile racism of the BNP and its like.

NO. Muslims are NOT "MY" Fellow Citizens. Not in America until they become Naturalized. Until they take off the towels and the body-tents. They wanna wear their version of a yarmulka, that's fine, Jews do that too. They want their Imams to wear religious garb? That's fine, Catholics and Jews do that too. They want to let their boys and girls play soccer? Fine. They want their kids on the swim team? Fine.

INTEGRATE means to make into a whole by bringing all parts together. ONE WHOLE, not MULTI-Pieces. Integrate means to blend into a UNIFIED WHOLE.

If the Muslims can't blend into the unified whole of civilization and society, they need to go back to where they can do whatever it is they do.
25 posted on 08/02/2005 7:04:48 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (It translates as "72 raisins of startling white clarity" NOT 72 fair skinned maidens.)
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To: Ode To Ted Kennedys Liver

That's what's so great about the Brits...when push comes to shove....their COMMON SENSE comes to the surface in such a beautiful way...


26 posted on 08/02/2005 7:07:28 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

MUSLIMS WILL NEVER ASSIMILATE WHILE THEIR CLERICS TELL THEM THIS:


Preserving The
Islamic Identity in The West



Threats & Solutions


Should they gain the upper hand over you, they would behave to you as enemies, and stretch forth their hands and their tongues against you with evil, and they desire that you should disbelieve. [Al-Mumtahinah 60:2]

The Islamic identity of Muslims in Australia is rapidly being dissolved in the melting pot of this society. Clearly our identity is under threat as we see our ideologies, beliefs and manners give way to the ideologies, beliefs and manners of the Kuffar. The preservation of the Islamic identity has become a challenge rather than something we can take for granted. What makes this challenge unique, however, is that there is no Islamic leadership, no Caliphate and no country in which protection or guidance can be sought.



For a multitude of reasons, most of which are not in accordance with Islam, Muslims have been flocking to non-Muslim countries. Some come as refugees, many come for a better standard of living, o thers to get education, be near to their relatives, and some for Da' wah. The result of this is a new problem which has not existed for centuries - Muslims are being exposed, on an unprecedented scale to non-Muslim cultures and beliefs. In fact, many are n ow born in these countries, and instead of being raised with a sound Islamic identity, many are taking the Christian values of their 'adopted home'. It is of little surprise that we see many Muslims turn from Islam in later life.



This article aims to expose some of the sources of misguidance for Muslims living amongst the Kuffar, as well as some solutions and defences we can employ.



The Islamic Identity



Firstly, it is necessary to define what is meant by the term "Islamic identity" . The Islamic Identity is taken to mean the way of life of the Muslim - an all-encompassing set of beliefs, practices and ideologies as derived from the Qur'an and the example of Muhammad (s.a.w). The Islamic identity is that which separates us from the Kuffar.



Education



The educat ion system is typically where the indoctrination process begins. Muslim school children are sent off by their parents to Kafir schools with good intentions of an education and a chance at a better life (in this world, at least). The children are placed in an environment where the mixing of sexes is not only tolerated but encouraged through the placement of children in multi-gender sporting teams and class groups. These children grow up to believe such behaviour is normal. This leads, in most cases, to the m passing off the Islamic requirement of segregated sexes as 'old fashioned' or 'backward'. After years in an environment as free as this, it is no surprise that we see so many young Muslims with 'boyfriends', and 'girlfriends'.



A major component of the education system is to turn the students into 'good Australians'. To be a good Australian means to obey the laws of the land even if they conflict with the laws of Allah (s.w.t). We see this from the earliest stages of the child's education in the form of flag-raising ceremonies each morning in which the children sing the national anthem and stand in respect as the flag of the non-Muslims is raised over their heads.



In later stages, the indoctrination becomes more advanced through subjects such as politics and legal studies. In these studies, the 'benefits' of western-style democracy and the Westminister system of government are taught. The children are taught that S hirk is the best form of government. They are taught that being a "good citizen" is about voting and participation in this Shirk-based system. By the time the child passes through the digestive tract of the Kaffir educational system, he or she will probably see him/herself as an Australian first and a Muslim second. The effect on the Islamic identity is that it is replaced with, in best case scenarios, a watered-down Islamic identity, and in the extreme case, a total Kaffir identity.



Every subject taught to the Muslim has a hidden agenda - to foster disbelief and moral decline. In Human Education, our children are being taught that being promiscuous is a 'natural part of growing up'. These enemies of Allah are even equipping our children with contraceptive devices, under our noses, giving them their tacit approval to commit adultery. These same classes teach that homosexuality is something that 'cannot be helped' and as such is a perfectly 'normal' kind of behaviour.



In History, we see a euro-centric view of the world in which the Christians are viewed as the only people worthy of any respect or any admi ration. It is rare that mention is ever made of the great contribution made to the Occidental world from the Orient. It is even rarer that the names of the great Muslim scientists are mentioned. It is no wonder that many Muslim children end up with a sens e of shame in being Muslim. This shame is often shown in their refusal to use their 'Muslim names', e.g. suddenly Muhammad becomes known as 'Mike'.



When all the "good things" have been done by the Christians (according to their curriculum) can you honestly blame them? These seeds of shame planted in the mind of the Muslim child will bear the sour fruits of disbelief in later life and serve to ensure the Islamic identity is destroyed.



Despite Australia' s claims of being a secular society, the education system places a heavy, though largely invisible, emphasis on Christian beliefs and practices. In the lead up to Christmas it is not extraordinary for even government-run schools to hold nativity plays, or make the students engage in Christmas-based activities, s uch as making Christmas cards or so forth. This, coupled with the fact that the Muslim student is probably a minority in a school full of Kaffirs, serves to pressure the Muslim child into adopting practices that are clearly not from Islam. The Muslim chil d will see his or her friends exchanging presents at Christmas and may expect the same at home. Often the schools present these Christian practices in such a way that the child may even be unaware that they are acting out the behaviour of the disbelievers . It is important that parents are aware of this and take the necessary steps to prevent it or at least ensure it does not impact the child.



Of course whilst the empirical source of this is the Kuffar and his puppeteer, the Shaytan, we cannot blame them entirely. We must also look to ourselves. Muslim families, having lost much of their Islamic values, have sold out to the West. By sending our children to kindergarten and child care centres we are sending our children to be suckled by the Shaytan. One need only look at the high number of child molestation' s that occur in these places to see the truth of this. It is out of neglect for our Islamic duties, and a love of dunia , that we neglect our children. Muslim mothers are choosing to work rather than stay home and ensure their children are educated Islamically. The so-called "woman's liberation movement" has indeed succeeded in " liberating women" - liberating them from the shackles of responsible parenting. Fathers, drunk on western commercialism, are emphasisi ng economic and material growth of the family unit over spiritual growth. If these children received the proper Islamic education at home, perhaps the wolves of disbelief would not find them such easy prey.



Proper Islamic education should counter the lies and the corruption fed to the children in school. It should be presented in such a way as to engender a feeling of pride in Islam. Furthermore, it should cover Islamic history to offset the lies taught in History, Islamic law to offset the lies taught in Legal Studies. Parents must take responsibility for arming their students with correct Aqeedah and sound knowledge to defend themselves from these wolves and the decline of the Islamic identity.

THIS IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE 'SERMON' READ IT ALL:
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27 posted on 08/02/2005 7:11:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: blam
Multi-Culturalism is what keeps Bush and all the other politicians for enacting strong emigration policies. We should have ONE American Culture, and it should be based on our constitution -- that's it.
28 posted on 08/02/2005 7:12:48 PM PDT by the_rightside (Union Corruption : http://www.nlpc.org/artindx.asp)
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, I'd go on.

Please do, your doing a fine job! Inequality in the name of equality was a pathetic idea to begin with. Only an idiot could believe it could work.

29 posted on 08/02/2005 7:13:04 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: Archon of the East

Thanks. It sure is nice to come to a place where folks get it.

D1


30 posted on 08/02/2005 7:19:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Dark Skies
Hey, thanks for all the pings DS. I'm happy to have finally made it home to the US for some much needed R+R. ;o)

Now what's this I hear... Is Eurabia finally waking up? I try not to be pessimistic, but until their liberals are removed from power, I fear they may hit the snooze button again. One mans "boat rocker," n all....

31 posted on 08/02/2005 7:42:16 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: blam

And this is one fifth of the brain trust on the security council?


32 posted on 08/02/2005 7:46:48 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: USF

Hey USF...lots of good posts but no passion for the defence. Good to have you on board!


33 posted on 08/02/2005 7:50:41 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: blam

"Muslims must start integrating into mainstream British society"

How will they MAKE this happen?


34 posted on 08/02/2005 7:56:09 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Fred Nerks

What was that second choice? Something about nuking Medina as a warning and then Mecca if they don't understand what the warning was?

I'm really NOT supporting any war or nuclear bombing mission, but it saved a lot of Japanese and Americans and it clearly would save a lot of . . . Muslim isn't a Country, it's an ideology.

Just how does a Nation go about Nuking an Ideology?

I guess the only way to nuke an ideology would be to nuke the places where the Ideology got its foothold. But we better be ready to replace it with something better if we do.


35 posted on 08/02/2005 8:07:45 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (It translates as "72 raisins of startling white clarity" NOT 72 fair skinned maidens.)
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