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Coroner: 6 Alive When Greek Plane Crashed
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Posted on 08/15/2005 8:26:58 PM PDT by traumer
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:27:01 PM PDT
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traumer
To: traumer
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:29:24 PM PDT
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traumer
To: traumer
Seconds to respond? Seconds is defined as 2 or 60?
There was that flight near Hawaii where the plane was nearly ripped apart at 24000 feet. Yet the only person who died was the poor flight attendant who got sucked out.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:47:50 PM PDT
by
Rokurota
(.)
To: traumer
*** and two unidentified people trying to take control of the plane***
There it is.
To: traumer
I thought Millennium was a good movie.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:49:40 PM PDT
by
Lawgvr1955
(Never draw to an inside straight.)
To: Rokurota
Papers today were saying between 15-30 secs to get the O2 mask on before one would pass out.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:50:36 PM PDT
by
Atchafalaya
(When you're there, that's the best!!)
To: traumer
"In that case, passengers and flight crew would have had only seconds to put on oxygen masks before losing consciousness..."
The CNN piece is full of it, along with the usual errors in English ("...failed to answer all the questions.").
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:52:03 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
To: Atchafalaya
So there should have been no problem for the pilots. Something really fishy here.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:52:47 PM PDT
by
Rokurota
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To: Atchafalaya
If the aircraft was on auto pilot when the decompression accrued then it should have continued on at the course and altitude it was at when the incident happened. They reportedly hit the mountain at 10,000 feet. At that altitude there would be enough O2 and heat to keep them going. It could be that they had started their descent for the airport, but that would not give the military time to scramble the fighters and intercept the doomed aircraft plus provide time for the pilots to check out what was happening in the cockpit.
All of this is conjecture of course. Hopefully the flight data and cockpit voice recorders will shed a lot of light on what was going on. It's going to be an interesting one, regardless of what it turns out to have been.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:56:20 PM PDT
by
jwpjr
To: traumer
something about this article seems off-kilter. Can they know this:
"After the crash, authorities said it appeared to have been caused by a technical failure - resulting in high-altitude decompression. A Cypriot transport official had said Sunday the passengers and crew may have been dead before the plane crashed."
in less than 24 hours ?
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:57:27 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
To: jwpjr
Hopefully the flight data and cockpit voice recorders will shed a lot of light on what was going onThe article has someone stating that the voice recorder may be too damaged. Fishy.
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posted on
08/15/2005 8:59:49 PM PDT
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Rokurota
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To: Rokurota
It is strange in that I would think they were trained in case of that type of emergency (decompression); seems like the only thing to do after donning their masks would be to get to a lower altitude ASAP. The plane was flying ok it seems. Yeah, fishy.
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:01:19 PM PDT
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Atchafalaya
(When you're there, that's the best!!)
To: stylin19a
I know about the golfer's (forgot his name) private plane, but does anyone know of any similar case in which a commercial plane crashed because of what they are speculating. (Similar case not having to go back to 1935).
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:02:32 PM PDT
by
Rokurota
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To: Atchafalaya
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:04:12 PM PDT
by
traumer
To: jwpjr
The plane had to be at altitude (34000 ft) long enough for controllers to get concerned, scramble F16's which caught up with the jet at I believe 34000 ft. That would be plenty of time for the passengers to have been rendered unconscious/dead. Anyone remember what altitude Payne Stewart's plane was at when fighter aircraft caught up with it?
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:07:49 PM PDT
by
Atchafalaya
(When you're there, that's the best!!)
To: Rokurota
There was a plane in Australia in 2000, but I'm not sure if that was commercial or what.
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:09:00 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
To: Atchafalaya
The plane was on autopilot at 35,000 feet. The pilots of the F-16s reported seeing one of the pilots slumped over its controls, but did not see the other pilot. They saw two people who they thought were crew members trying to prevent the plane from crashing, a government spokesman said.Who were these people and why were they okay at 35000 feet?
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:11:51 PM PDT
by
Rokurota
(.)
To: Rokurota
Thats where the fish come in. Didn't they find a flight attendent in the cockpit weckage? The capt. may have gone back in the cabin and the decompresion happened while he was out of the cockpit??? I don't know. Maybe they should ask Mr. Kallestram or Jim Hall if they think the centerline fuel tank leaked and the fumes made everyone pass out.
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:21:45 PM PDT
by
Atchafalaya
(When you're there, that's the best!!)
To: Rokurota
Thats where the fish come in. Didn't they find a flight attendent in the cockpit weckage? The capt. may have gone back in the cabin and the decompresion happened while he was out of the cockpit??? I don't know. Maybe they should ask Mr. Kallestram or Jim Hall if they think the centerline fuel tank leaked and the fumes made everyone pass out.
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:23:15 PM PDT
by
Atchafalaya
(When you're there, that's the best!!)
To: Rokurota
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posted on
08/15/2005 9:23:23 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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