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Copters recalled from boneyard
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/v-printer/story/2741511p-9179104c.html ^ | Aug 21, 2005 | JAY PRICE

Posted on 08/21/2005 8:20:31 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod

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1 posted on 08/21/2005 8:20:31 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Damn Clinton...


2 posted on 08/21/2005 8:21:27 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Why do they keep PINGING me to these weird threads? I have no idea!!!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

We need our 600 ship Navy back that we had in the mid-1980's.

Are those 300 missing ships now razorblades?


3 posted on 08/21/2005 8:32:08 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is becoming pussified.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

We will be damn lucky to be ready for China. Assuming our next president doesn't slash our defense budget to ribbons like 42 did.


4 posted on 08/21/2005 8:36:10 PM PDT by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: Dashing Dasher
Damn the gyreens for tossing 13 billion into a foolhardy project like the Osprey.... They have been going at it for a generation and not one combat mission from these contraptions...
5 posted on 08/21/2005 8:49:49 PM PDT by aspiring.hillbilly (The Confederate States of America rises again...!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I'm going to be an optimist on this one.

Although the article states a 20 month turnaround on rebuilding these choppers, it wouldn't surprise me at all that it gets done in 10 months.

Sounds like we are going to have American civilian contractors and military personnel working on the project side-by-side.

Any of you air-wing guys disagree?
6 posted on 08/21/2005 8:51:25 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: KneelBeforeZod

I wonder if they hire out tp dp old car restoration work?


7 posted on 08/21/2005 8:52:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

There was a story on History channel about this boneyard just the other night. Many of the aircraft there are kept in for just this purpose.


8 posted on 08/21/2005 8:56:32 PM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: KneelBeforeZod

This writer does not understand what the whole mission and purpose and *daily* work of the boneyard is all about.

Calling them "worn-out" is just plain wrong. A *lot* of work is constantly ongoing at the boneyard to keep thousands of aircraft in various levels of servicability. The airframes that are candidates for return to service are NOT "worn-out". They are actually in excellent condition.

The whole *function* of the boneyard is to store and inventory fleets of aircraft in a low-corrosion environment in between times when we need lots of them and times when we don't need so many.


9 posted on 08/21/2005 9:00:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Finalapproach29er
We need our 600 ship Navy back that we had in the mid-1980's.

To counter what enemy? We currently have the most powerful navy in the world. Do the terrorists have any ships other than small speedboats? Pure foolishness - the money it would take to update 300 ships can be MUCH better spent elsewhere.

Besides, those old ships take personnel to man them. Which, again, would be better deployed elsewhere.

SW

10 posted on 08/21/2005 9:01:42 PM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: aspiring.hillbilly

I'm not so sure the Osprey will turn out to be foolhardy at all. The early problems seem to have been worked out, just like what happens with any new design. Nobody knows, but I hope it works out well.

The concept of the Osprey is a good one. Higher speed transit than a CH-46, longer range, but still about the same lifting capacity and mission capability. I hope it works.


11 posted on 08/21/2005 9:06:23 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Tangerine Time Machine
We will be damn lucky to be ready for China. Assuming our next president doesn't slash our defense budget to ribbons like 42 did.

In Vietnam, my 155mm self-propelled Battery was usually down to 3-4 guns (out of 6) at any given time. Spare parts, I learned at a very early age, can win or lose a war.

12 posted on 08/21/2005 9:13:59 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Snidely Whiplash

China is going to have a great deal of shopping money in about 15-20 years,thank to the US consumer.


13 posted on 08/21/2005 9:15:06 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is becoming pussified.)
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To: Ramius

V22's are being flown all over the place here in the Panhandle of Texas. Bells final assembly for em is in Amarillo and they are working very well thus far.....

As to the boneyard birds being brought back that's why they are there....The system works as designed.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 9:24:48 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Snidely Whiplash

I would tend to agree. It's not the number of ships anymore so much as it is what those ships can do. The stuff we're doing nowadays with amphibs, and with missle cruisers... not to mention carriers and subs... is just orders of magnitude beyond what we could do a few decades ago.

My only regret is the loss of the big battleships. I'm fully aware of the bad budget voodoo that is required to keep them running, and that they don't make sense. I'm completely willing to admit that it is a completely emotional argument that I make. But dammit... there is just nothing on the water that is or may ever be as cool as the profile of an Iowa-class BB on the horizon. Then all the 16-inchers cut loose... ooooohhhh... :-)

I count myself lucky enough to have been in a live-fire exercise along with the USS New Jersey a few years ago in one of the annual assaults on San Clemente Island. My little CG cutter was in between NJ and the shore and they were firing the 16's over our heads. In the name of all that is Holy-- it was inspiring. :-)

I would support the idea of keeping at least one Iowa-class running, nomatter the cost. Just because we can. :-)


15 posted on 08/21/2005 9:26:54 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: KneelBeforeZod

Pull all the B52s out too! The old ones that COULD carpet bomb, all the current ones carry but a few precision eggs


16 posted on 08/21/2005 9:27:57 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: Squantos

I suspect the last Super Stallion pilot has been born yet.


17 posted on 08/21/2005 9:28:51 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: investigateworld

hasn't ?


18 posted on 08/21/2005 9:31:36 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: ExtremeUnction

During WWII the eight airforce was happy if 25% of the B-17s were combat ready.


19 posted on 08/21/2005 9:32:27 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: Ramius; aspiring.hillbilly
WIRED had a very good article on the Osprey and talked about some of the management mistakes made ...there were some good ones.....but was good basis for some optimism that it will come together in the end....really good and heavy testing is one of the keys,.
20 posted on 08/21/2005 9:41:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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